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Old Wed Feb 05, 2014, 11:20pm
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Stanford-California Video Request (Video)

APG or Jet or whoever has the ability...

Could you please post the throw-in and subsequent foul at about the 1:56 mark of the second half?

Anyone have an offensive foul before the called foul?

The defensive foul led to a monitor review to determine whether they should upgrade or not. They stayed with the personal foul and did not upgrade.
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Old Thu Feb 06, 2014, 04:31pm
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Some of you may be able to browse to the play here: ESPN3 -- Stanford vs. California
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Old Thu Feb 06, 2014, 05:17pm
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Should have called the offensive foul. Everything else after that seemed correct and well handled. I will say that the offensive foul did not seem as bad as the defensive player made it look. However, getting that call prevents the rest.
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Old Fri Feb 07, 2014, 04:42pm
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Old Fri Feb 07, 2014, 04:50pm
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Wow...even I would call that offensive foul. Did the defender embelish...sure, but don't most of them?
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Old Fri Feb 07, 2014, 05:09pm
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That looks like a lot of embellishment. I think I would have passed on the PC foul too.

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Old Fri Feb 07, 2014, 07:10pm
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No PC. Nice acting job by the defender. The offensive player touched the defender but most certainly didn't displace him.
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Old Fri Feb 07, 2014, 09:10pm
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No call on the pc, IMO.
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Old Fri Feb 07, 2014, 09:19pm
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This is one of times when a defender oversells a possible PC foul, and it ends up costing him.
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Old Sat Feb 08, 2014, 10:18am
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This is one of times when a defender oversells a possible PC foul, and it ends up costing him.
Overselling didn't necessarily cost him ... the dumb retaliation bump did
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Old Sat Feb 08, 2014, 10:55am
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These two teams have a recent history of bad blood. Given that I would be inclined to call the PC foul to prevent things from escalating, even though I think the contact is minimal, the defensive player clearly embellished the severity of the contact, and in most situations I would have a no call. I guess you would say my PC call would be game specific, not necessarily play specific.
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Old Sat Feb 08, 2014, 11:02am
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No PC foul for me either.
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Old Sat Feb 08, 2014, 05:04pm
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These two teams have a recent history of bad blood. Given that I would be inclined to call the PC foul to prevent things from escalating, even though I think the contact is minimal, the defensive player clearly embellished the severity of the contact, and in most situations I would have a no call. I guess you would say my PC call would be game specific, not necessarily play specific.
If it were that kind of situation, I'd call it a block. I'm calling the offense for a foul they didn't commit because the defender is being an ass.
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Old Sat Feb 08, 2014, 05:15pm
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I have a PC, especially given the back story of their rivalry. The defender didn't do anything wrong/illegal on the initial contact and embellishing doesn't mean no foul was committed. If A1 is enough of a knucklehead to drop a shoulder into someone in that situation (+12, < 2:00) he deserves what he gets.
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Old Sat Feb 08, 2014, 06:36pm
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If such a thing was a POE, this is a great time to whip out the PC/T-for-embellishing double foul.

Think of the great calls made in the NHL where a penalty is called, along with a second one for diving.
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