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Old Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:43pm
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Going into the under 8 timeout with 7:50 left or so. Charge call but it looked like she was on the RA.

Anybody else see it or able to post video? Interested in the thoughts of the college officials.
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Old Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:01pm
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Not only that, but Brenda Pantoja just gave a one-finger directional signal after a monitor review!
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Foul signal
On Stanford's three to tie the game with a second left, from the opposite end line camera angle, you can see the lead go up with a fist and switch it to a three point signal when it is good. A case of a brain fart for her or was she going to call a foul if it was missed?
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Old Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:21pm
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I saw the RA play, too. Looked to be in the RA, I think the C is supposed to help out on that.

In other news, Doris Burke just threw a fit about a foul call at 2:13 in OT. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who doesn't care for her!
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Going into the under 8 timeout with 7:50 left or so. Charge call but it looked like she was on the RA.

Anybody else see it or able to post video? Interested in the thoughts of the college officials.
It would appear it was missed. According to our mechanics the wrong official made the call as well. It should have been the C's all the way with the L as help.

I'd be stunned if that one wasn't clipped and sent to the assignor and/or if it doesn't find its way to our Central Hub on Arbiter.


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On Stanford's three to tie the game with a second left, from the opposite end line camera angle, you can see the lead go up with a fist and switch it to a three point signal when it is good. A case of a brain fart for her or was she going to call a foul if it was missed?
Just watched it. She may have mulligan-ed. Went up with the fist because she saw contact then thought better of it.


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In other news, Doris Burke just threw a fit about a foul call at 2:13 in OT. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who doesn't care for her!
Not really a "fit" but the call may have left a little to be desired. Where UConn could complain is the signal given was a push/two-hand touch and UConn #41 never put two hands on the BH/dribbler.
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I saw the RA play, too. Looked to be in the RA, I think the C is supposed to help out on that.

In other news, Doris Burke just threw a fit about a foul call at 2:13 in OT. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who doesn't care for her!
Looked like the C is pointing at something about the time the L makes the punch.
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Looked like the C is pointing at something about the time the L makes the punch.
It looks like the C is pointing at the L with the "You got this one" point...which, as JMF said, is wrong. Should have been C's call all the way. And it also kind of looks like the L is surprised that the C is giving it up.

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I don't work any level with the RA, but can't the Center come in on plays like this and give the Lead information that the defender was in the RA? That is assuming the Center sees the defender in the RA to begin with, which I'm not sure she did on this play.
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I don't work any level with the RA, but can't the Center come in on plays like this and give the Lead information that the defender was in the RA? That is assuming the Center sees the defender in the RA to begin with, which I'm not sure she did on this play.
yes, the center can help.
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White 41, guarding Blue 30, slid over to take the charge. Would she be considered a secondary defender?
If so, does that change the mind-set of the C and L, as to which official takes the call?
Would that explain the point by the C, that seems to indicate that L should take the call?
Is there a difference as to which official takes that call, based on when/where the ballhandler received the pass, that is, as she crossed the freethrow line extended, or if she had received the pass higher, on her path to the basket?
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White 41, guarding Blue 30, slid over to take the charge. Would she be considered a secondary defender?
If so, does that change the mind-set of the C and L, as to which official takes the call?
Would that explain the point by the C, that seems to indicate that L should take the call?
Is there a difference as to which official takes that call, based on when/where the ballhandler received the pass, that is, as she crossed the freethrow line extended, or if she had received the pass higher, on her path to the basket?
On drives from C to L, C takes the call (in NCAAW).

On a fastbreak, any defensive player is a secondary defender (in NCAAW)
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