Administering FTs after a fight

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Fight procedures--When you get a minute take a look at nfhs case book play 10.4.5situation A (c) -- A1 and B1, players on court, punch each other at same time. A6 and A7 leave the bench but don't participate in a fight. B6 and B7 also leave their bench. B6 does NOT Participate but B7 does.

1. Penalize players originally on court first. A1 and B1 ejected, team could total goes up on each side by one. (flagrant Ts) no free throws cause number on court same.

2. Then look at number leaving bench for each side. if the number leaving the bench is the same you will NOT shoot free throws for bench personnel leaving the bench. A6, A7,B6, B7 all given flagrant Ts and ejected. team foul count increases on each side by 2.
Because player left bench for A and did not participate its coach is given an indirect T. Team B coach gets an indirect T because player left bench and didn't fight and also another indirect T for the player who did leave bench and Fight.

3. it would seem that A would get to shoot because a B bench player participated in the fight but that's not what rule says and case book play says.

Another NFHS rule not written clearly….

There's nothing different about this case play between this year and last year. The last line of the penalty for NFHS 10.4.5 reads:

When a simultaneous technical foul(s) by opponents occurs, the free throws are not awarded when the penalties offset.

The act in 10.4.5 is "(leaving) the confines of the bench during a fight or when a fight may break out," regardless of whether the bench personnel get involved. The penalty is ejection and two FTs for the offended team. That matches up with the rule. The only difference in how it's handled is the effect on the HC. All four players left the confines of the bench so they're all ejected. Each team would be entitled to four FTs regardless of the affect on the HCs so those cancel out.

As far as the OP is concerned, I understand as well. The acts are connected by the same incident but they're still two separate acts.