Held ball or foul?

[Pantherdreams]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Jumping on another player is a foul, every time.

If you want an advantage to consider, by jumping on the other player the jumper gained access to the ball they would not have otherwise. The advantage/disadvantage is not always the effect is has on the fouled player but the benefit gained by the fouling player.

Since gravity doesn't allow him to maintain a legal guarding position without affording him time and space that the player with the ball is not entitled to, I'm not sure I buy that. If I see having to make contact in this case as gainining advtange (when if the player had been vertical he could have reached in for the ball and bellied up) then suddenly the player on the floor is entitled to more time and space then if we was standing.

I'm also not sold on this interp being shared by forum members on this topic and the shot block topic. The fact that a path will result in contact does not mean that the resulting action is a foul. All sorts of paths lead to contact it is our determination which decides if any of those contacts impacts the play in way that = a foul call. Calling a foul because the only way it could have happened was with contact is not a criteria for a foul call. He could have gotten access to the ball any number of ways. Standing over him, reaching down, laying down beside him and reaching across . . . the contact was caused to his choice of action but the choice of action gained him no more advantage then the rules or any other action would allow.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

Since gravity doesn't allow him to maintain a legal guarding position without affording him time and space that the player with the ball is not entitled to, ....

What does LGP have to do with this play? Not every foul is based on LGP.