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Old Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:16pm
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A good pregame regarding who takes what play will help reduce blarges.

Proper Mechanics- whistle, holding your fist up in the air and eye contact with your partner should eliminate blarges.
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Old Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:24pm
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Here's how you prevent 98% of blarges.

Stop cracking your whistle on plays that are not yours. It's really kind of simple.
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Old Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:46pm
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Here's how you prevent 98% of blarges.

Stop cracking your whistle on plays that are not yours. It's really kind of simple.
Nice on paper, but not in the real world. Most of them happen because both officials usually have good reason to believe it is theirs. When exactly does a rotating secondary defender become a primary defender?
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Old Tue Mar 11, 2014, 04:11pm
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Here's how you prevent 98% of blarges.

Stop cracking your whistle on plays that are not yours. It's really kind of simple.
So on a play in an area of intersection the officials should...?

As was mentioned, the way to avoid them - all of them - is keep the fist up but don't make a preliminary signal.

I had one of these in my GV game (NCAAW 3-person mechanics) last week. I'm L on a semi-fast break. Crash takes place in the lane but on C's half. I wait a beat since my C was recovering to get to her area. I blow my whistle and raise my fist then I hear her whistle and I freeze. I look at her and yell "take it" since I know it's her primary and she calls the PC (which is what I had). It was a little clumsy because of the delay and Team A's HC wasn't thrilled, especially since his team was down 25, but the next time I was in front of him I quietly explained that it looked awkward but I stopped because I heard another whistle.
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So on a play in an area of intersection the officials should...?
belong to the official whose area the play is moving into.
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belong to the official whose area the play is moving into.
And when it is moving right along the line between the areas and not into or out of either area?
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And when it is moving right along the line between the areas and not into or out of either area?
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And sometimes the drive starts and ends in your area and your partner has a late whistle and signal you don't even hear or see.
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And when it is moving right along the line between the areas and not into or out of either area?
If this little mini-event was the only time blarge was called, then we wouldn't really have an issue - and the purpose for the "Tie goes to the nobody" rule here would make sense.

But it's not. It's used as a "Gee, I don't know" call FAR too often.
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If this little mini-event was the only time blarge was called, then we wouldn't really have an issue - and the purpose for the "Tie goes to the nobody" rule here would make sense.

But it's not. It's used as a "Gee, I don't know" call FAR too often.
Yes, that is an infrequent event but deciding which side of the line it happened on when it is a more typical situation is just as much a judgement call as the call itself. No matter how you slice it, any call near the change of primaries will be subject to double whistles. Short of restraint in making the call, you'll always have cases where the officials disagree and even disagree about who's primary it was really in. One has a charge, one has a block. Each claim it was in their primary, what do you do then?

No matter how you try to resolve this based on PCA's, it will always be flawed because there can be debate about where it actually occurred. And even if you fix that, it is still flawed because there is no guarantee that he one you default was the right one....probably about 50% chance.

I think it is better to stick both with a foul rather than the wrong one while the one that really deserved it gets nothing.
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If this little mini-event was the only time blarge was called, then we wouldn't really have an issue - and the purpose for the "Tie goes to the nobody" rule here would make sense.

But it's not. It's used as a "Gee, I don't know" call FAR too often.
Often? I've had exactly one of these in my career. One. In a summer game.
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So on a play in an area of intersection the officials should...?

As was mentioned, the way to avoid them - all of them - is keep the fist up but don't make a preliminary signal.

I had one of these in my GV game (NCAAW 3-person mechanics) last week. I'm L on a semi-fast break. Crash takes place in the lane but on C's half. I wait a beat since my C was recovering to get to her area. I blow my whistle and raise my fist then I hear her whistle and I freeze. I look at her and yell "take it" since I know it's her primary and she calls the PC (which is what I had). It was a little clumsy because of the delay and Team A's HC wasn't thrilled, especially since his team was down 25, but the next time I was in front of him I quietly explained that it looked awkward but I stopped because I heard another whistle.
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