"blarge call" high school

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

And this is why I pregame "blarges" out of my games because we all know that by rule a blarge is impossible: Either the Defensive Player has obtained (NFHS)/established (NCAA/FIBAp a LGP or he/she has not. A Defensive Player cannot have both a LGP and non-LGP simultaneously, .

This is one aspects of the rules that NCAA Women's gets it correct via its CCA Manual.

MTD, Sr.

So you'd rather effectively flip a coin before the game to decide who is right?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

So you'd rather effectively flip a coin before the game to decide who is right?

I think he's rather simply call it correctly ... the blarge is like a tie in baseball - doesn't really happen. And calling a blarge is like asking yourself, "Did the defender have LGP" and answering, "I don't know," and ruling accordingly.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

So you'd rather effectively flip a coin before the game to decide who is right?

Camron:

A good pregame involves PCAs and how to handle plays coming from one PCA and going into another PCA. I would be willing to bet dollars to donuts that "blarges" happen more often in games officiated with three-man crews as opposed to two-man crews.

MTD, Sr.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Camron:

A good pregame involves PCAs and how to handle plays coming from one PCA and going into another PCA.

Agree with this but sometimes stuff happens, i.e. somebody screws up.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Camron:

A good pregame involves PCAs and how to handle plays coming from one PCA and going into another PCA. I would be willing to bet dollars to donuts that "blarges" happen more often in games officiated with three-man crews as opposed to two-man crews.

MTD, Sr.

The problem with that is that there are several situations that still don't fit the protocols....plays where the foul is right on the border of the two areas and the play was neither moving towards or away from one of them but right along the boundary.

And even if you work that out, it doesn't unsure that the call is right. 50% of the time, it will penalize the wrong team/player. At least with the blarge, it is largely offsetting and since the officials initially disagreed, this seems to be the most equitable and fair.

[just another ref]

There is nothing in the NFHS rule book which would lead one to arrive at this call. There is nothing in the NFHS case book which says that the two officials cannot confer and come out with a single call.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

There is nothing in the NFHS rule book which would lead one to arrive at this call. There is nothing in the NFHS case book which says that the two officials cannot confer and come out with a single call.

Right on time.

You're wrong, in that you're the only one I know (anywhere) who says the case book doesn't mean what you don't think it means.

Also, there's no better explanation for what the case means by "calls" that makes sense.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Adam

Right on time.

You're wrong, in that you're the only one I know (anywhere) who says the case book doesn't mean what you don't think it means.

Also, there's no better explanation for what the case means by "calls" that makes sense.

Actually, it now says "rules" instead of calls, which seems to take the preliminary signal even more out of the equation, if that were possible.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I would be willing to bet dollars to donuts that "blarges" happen more often in games officiated with three-man crews as opposed to two-man crews.

I may take you up on this bet. Depending on the conversion rate of dollars TO donuts.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by deecee

I may take you up on this bet. Depending on the conversion rate of dollars TO donuts.

I wrote that sentence without having my brain connected to my fingers. What I should have said is:

That I would bet dollars to donuts that there are more double whistles in a three-man game than there in a two-man game because of court coverage, but that there are more "blarges" called in a two-man game because more often that not double whistles in two-man games are the result of officials who are ball watchers.

But you can still have a dozen donuts on me at the nearest Tim Horton's, .

MTD, Sr.

Was this in the UHA-Henderson game? If so what I heard was they did not know if the ball went in the basket? They should have went to the arrow? Looks like someone should have know if the ball went in the basket as they could have asked the scorekeeper?

Would it have made any difference if the shooter had missed the shot?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by big jake

Would it have made any difference if the shooter had missed the shot?

Since you didn't quote anything, it's hard to know to which play you are referring, but in the OP, yes, it would have made a difference.

The correct ruling for the OP was given early in the thread.