"blarge call" high school

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by deecee

This is a double foul and the foul by the offensive player should not make the ball dead, as it would in a regular PC. The basket should count and the ball put in play at the POI, which in this case is B's ball with the privileged of running the endling.

That depends on whether it is released or not before the foul. If so, count the basket and POI (throwin for B). If not, the ball is dead, no basket, POI (throwin for A).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That depends on whether it is released or not before the foul. If so, count the basket and POI (throwin for B). If not, the ball is dead, no basket, POI (throwin for A).

In neither case would you go to the arrow, though.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Adam

In neither case would you go to the arrow, though.

In neither of those cases, true. But if the try was released but unsuccessful, you would go with the arrow.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

And this is why I pregame "blarges" out of my games because we all know that by rule a blarge is impossible: Either the Defensive Player has obtained (NFHS)/established (NCAA/FIBAp a LGP or he/she has not. A Defensive Player cannot have both a LGP and non-LGP simultaneously, .

This is one aspects of the rules that NCAA Women's gets it correct via its CCA Manual.

MTD, Sr.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

And this is why I pregame "blarges" out of my games because we all know that by rule a blarge is impossible: Either the Defensive Player has obtained (NFHS)/established (NCAA/FIBAp a LGP or he/she has not. A Defensive Player cannot have both a LGP and non-LGP simultaneously, .

This is one aspects of the rules that NCAA Women's gets it correct via its CCA Manual.

MTD, Sr.

So you'd rather effectively flip a coin before the game to decide who is right?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

So you'd rather effectively flip a coin before the game to decide who is right?

I think he's rather simply call it correctly ... the blarge is like a tie in baseball - doesn't really happen. And calling a blarge is like asking yourself, "Did the defender have LGP" and answering, "I don't know," and ruling accordingly.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

So you'd rather effectively flip a coin before the game to decide who is right?

Camron:

A good pregame involves PCAs and how to handle plays coming from one PCA and going into another PCA. I would be willing to bet dollars to donuts that "blarges" happen more often in games officiated with three-man crews as opposed to two-man crews.

MTD, Sr.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Camron:

A good pregame involves PCAs and how to handle plays coming from one PCA and going into another PCA.

Agree with this but sometimes stuff happens, i.e. somebody screws up.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Camron:

A good pregame involves PCAs and how to handle plays coming from one PCA and going into another PCA. I would be willing to bet dollars to donuts that "blarges" happen more often in games officiated with three-man crews as opposed to two-man crews.

MTD, Sr.

The problem with that is that there are several situations that still don't fit the protocols....plays where the foul is right on the border of the two areas and the play was neither moving towards or away from one of them but right along the boundary.

And even if you work that out, it doesn't unsure that the call is right. 50% of the time, it will penalize the wrong team/player. At least with the blarge, it is largely offsetting and since the officials initially disagreed, this seems to be the most equitable and fair.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I would be willing to bet dollars to donuts that "blarges" happen more often in games officiated with three-man crews as opposed to two-man crews.

I may take you up on this bet. Depending on the conversion rate of dollars TO donuts.

Was this in the UHA-Henderson game? If so what I heard was they did not know if the ball went in the basket? They should have went to the arrow? Looks like someone should have know if the ball went in the basket as they could have asked the scorekeeper?

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

This is one aspects of the rules that NCAA Women's gets it correct via its CCA Manual.

Just curious what the CCA Manual state? Does it require the officials to confer and make a determination?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

Just curious what the CCA Manual state? Does it require the officials to confer and make a determination?

Yes.

MTD, Sr.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

Just curious what the CCA Manual state? Does it require the officials to confer and make a determination?

It requires the officials to determine whose primary area the call is in, and then go with that official's judgement on the play.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

And this is why I pregame "blarges" out of my games because we all know that by rule a blarge is impossible: Either the Defensive Player has obtained (NFHS)/established (NCAA/FIBAp a LGP or he/she has not. A Defensive Player cannot have both a LGP and non-LGP simultaneously, .

This is one aspects of the rules that NCAA Women's gets it correct via its CCA Manual.

MTD, Sr.

Maybe you should just pregame bad calls out of your game. Then even if there's a double whistle, you'll have same call.