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Old Sun Feb 23, 2014, 06:21am
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Play with the score tied at 41 = obvious PC.
Play with ten seconds left = PC, but close and tough while rotating.
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Old Sun Feb 23, 2014, 08:04am
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Both charges in my view under the new rule, old rule, whatever.
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Old Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:45pm
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Why didn't Boeheim get 1 technical and be given a chance to go back to bench?
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Old Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:49pm
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Why didn't Boeheim get 1 technical and be given a chance to go back to bench?
I think he got 2 T's on the play. The calling official, I believe, gave T #1 for his initial tirade off the bench on to the court. Then he probably insulted the official's wife's cooking which got T #2.

Either way from T #1 to #2 he got the chance to drop some knowledge on the proper method to prepare Sea Bass.
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Old Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:59pm
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But the replay shows the official giving 2 fast techs and then tossing him.
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Old Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:15pm
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First one was for charging the floor which is automatic and the second one was for cussing Tony as if you watch the TV replay they covered his mouth so you could not read his lips. Great calls as he had to leave. charge was the correct call and the ejections were right on! Good job crew!
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Old Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:18pm
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Boeheim should be sanctioned not only for the tirade, but for his assinine comment after the game that he had no regret about his actions.

Sets a great example for all youth coaches and young players around the country.
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Old Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:20pm
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I've seen the play multiple times and haven't decided which way I would adjudicate.

So I have no problem with either call. Ideally I would have liked the Lead to have completed his rotation instead of moving during the action.

This is about as close as they get.

If I'm in the Leads seat, I probably rule block, since that's the way we've been calling these plays all year long.
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Both plays, IMO, are PC. Based on the newspaper report, I went to the 4 letter to watch the end of game play. Thoughts on that - 1) I liked the call live, and wouldn't change it based on the replays that I saw. 2) How could Boeheim be doing anything but guessing based on his angle from the bench? He can disagree all he wants as long as .... He doesn't. Bye, bye. And he knew it. 3) I generally like ole Dickie V, but his on-air comments in this case are wrong. Bilas does a commendable job reining his partner in. Dickie V says the call ended the game. Bilas corrects him saying the Boeheim's response to the call actually did that.

The problem with points 2 & 3 are the trickle down effect of coaches and players actions in such situations. In no way does this call prevent the players from deciding the game's outcome.
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Old Sun Feb 23, 2014, 08:43am
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I watched this game with a room full of duke haters.

I commented after the Parker block/and1 that I thought it was a poor call, clearly a PC. I also educated the room on Ayers' credentials and how much I respected him.

As soon as the last PC was called, while they were all going crazy and proclaiming how biased the calls are always at Cameron indoor, I was watching the replays and how the crew handled the rabies infected coach. I also thought they did a remarkable job handling him, the assistants, and the players. I also thought immediately, and after seeing all the replays, that it was a correct PC call.

Then DickieV started his rant, and of course everybody in the room started with the "let the players decide the game" nonsense, one of my pet peeves. Before bilas even said one word, I was trying to convey the same argument: no matter what the call is, running out onto the court like that will get you ejected just about anywhere and 4 free throws will definitely put you out of the game.

I live in Kentucky, they're all still butt hurt about Christian lakener (sp?) Hitting that one shot :P
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Old Sun Feb 23, 2014, 09:10am
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I'm surprised at this one. The play at the end looks like an easy block to me under the new rule. I have a charge or maybe a no call in an NFHS game but this game has a different rule.
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Old Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:46am
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I'm surprised at this one. The play at the end looks like an easy block to me under the new rule. I have a charge or maybe a no call in an NFHS game but this game has a different rule.
Sorry, have to disagree. No way it is a no call.

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Old Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:04am
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Bad call or not does not excuse Boheim's childish tantrum.

either way PC on both calls, but the NCAA-M new interp has really caused a stir.
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Old Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:17am
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Bad call or not does not excuse Boheim's childish tantrum.

either way PC on both calls, but the NCAA-M new interp has really caused a stir.
Who cares about his behavior? No brainer. He wanted to get tossed. He gave the officials no choice.

It gave him a chance to call the assignor first

Our job is to penalize such behavior and the let the schools, league, NCAA handle the rest.
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Old Sun Feb 23, 2014, 09:17am
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I watched this game with a room full of duke haters.

I commented after the Parker block/and1 that I thought it was a poor call, clearly a PC. I also educated the room on Ayers' credentials and how much I respected him.

As soon as the last PC was called, while they were all going crazy and proclaiming how biased the calls are always at Cameron indoor, I was watching the replays and how the crew handled the rabies infected coach. I also thought they did a remarkable job handling him, the assistants, and the players. I also thought immediately, and after seeing all the replays, that it was a correct PC call.

Then DickieV started his rant, and of course everybody in the room started with the "let the players decide the game" nonsense, one of my pet peeves. Before bilas even said one word, I was trying to convey the same argument: no matter what the call is, running out onto the court like that will get you ejected just about anywhere and 4 free throws will definitely put you out of the game.

I live in Kentucky, they're all still butt hurt about Christian lakener (sp?) Hitting that one shot :P
I like the way you threw the official under the bus!! You cannot educate a fan. They don't want to be educated!! If I were a basketball official I would not want to work with you. If you were as good as you think you are you would have been working instead of watching with a bunch of nim nod fans!
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