Video Request - Syracuse vs Duke (Video)

[Tim Quan]

If I could use replay to make calls, yeah, I might be good at being an official. But I'm terrible at seeing things in real time. My first impression was that it was a block. It wasn't until the replay and Dan Shulman's statement that I thought "hey, wait...that's not right."

The article's too long and wordy, so I'll probably try to condense it without losing the main emphasis, but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't getting the rules wrong. I vetted it through a neighbor who currently works Division I women's games in the Southeast, but I thought I'd try this forum.

Appreciate the feedback. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Tim Quan

The article's too long and wordy, so I'll probably try to condense it without losing the main emphasis, but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't getting the rules wrong.

I read it a few minutes ago and thought this as well. Good luck with your revisions!

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Tim Quan

If I could use replay to make calls, yeah, I might be good at being an official. But I'm terrible at seeing things in real time.

The problem is not that we (the officials) don't have instant replay. The problem is that those others guys do have instant replay.

[Tim Quan]

Here's a question I still have.

I understand about establishing legal guarding position prior to the offensive player having begun his upward motion; but the rules don't say anything about upward motion as it pertains to a defender's ability to MAINTAIN legal guarding position.

Does the defender's rights to lateral motion to maintain LGP end when the shoot or passer begins his upward motion? Or is the upward motion criteria only applicable to when establishing LGP as the rule specifies?

In a nutshell, it seems like you can't slide or jump into LGP when the offensive player is beginning to go airborne, but if you got that LGP early, you can slide or jump into an adjusted position even if the opponent has begun his upward motion. That seems to be a hangup with critics of mine who insist this cannot be true and that the defender has to be committed to his spot by the time the shooter/passer's upwards motion has begun and that he can't make anymore adjustments to his position.

This actually sounds reasonable to me, but it's not specifically in the rule book. What say you all?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Tim Quan

If I could use replay to make calls, yeah, I might be good at being an official. But I'm terrible at seeing things in real time.

It gets better with practice. Give it a shot, you might be surprised.

[Tim Quan]

I've edited the page and tried to be a bit more concise. I don't think I can whittle it down much further without losing the detail I think is important.

Block or Charge

I'm still uncertain whether the "upward motion" restricts motion of the defender after initial legal guarding position is established but while he's maintaining it. Specifically, the brunt of my defense of Tony Greene's call is that the defender's little shuffling of the feet even after the offensive player has begun that upward motion is legal, as long has his motion isn't initiating contact.

But perhaps my whole premise is wrong and once that upward motion begins, all of the defender's foot movement does have to stop and he has to be committed to his spot. It doesn't read that way in the rules, but I'm reading some claimed officiating experts saying that is the intent.

If there are opinions on this, I'd like to hear them; but regardless, I appreciate the feedback already received.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

As for the sportscasters, most are not likely to listen at all. They'll continue to believe the myths they learned on the playground 30 years ago.

We have an official, here in Connecticut, who works, as a sportcaster, for the New York Knicks, and who also freelances for other networks when available. I've heard him speak to his fellow officials, and he says that his attitude about mistakes by officials that he sees in his Knicks games has changed since he became a high school official.