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Old Fri Feb 21, 2014, 09:18am
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Whistle or not

Officials Manual pg 21 says to sound whistle when play is about to begin only following a charged time out an intermission or an unusual delay. Do any areas regularly sound whistle following a substitution?
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Old Fri Feb 21, 2014, 10:05am
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Sometimes, based on how long the substitution has taken.
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Old Fri Feb 21, 2014, 10:13am
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I've been doing a lot of games with 1st and 2nd year officials this year, as we have quite a few new members in our assn. Our Assignor asked me to help with the on-court mentoring, by taking more Soph/JV games, to work with them. Last week, my partner, a 1st year official, was blowing his whistle every time he had a throw-in. I mentioned it to him at halftime, but he still couldn't break the habit.
When I told him that the NBA does that, and they have their reason(s), he was finally able to overcome the tendency.
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Old Fri Feb 21, 2014, 10:21am
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Not regularly. Most of the time it's, player in; player out; glance at partner(s); administer the throw in.
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Old Fri Feb 21, 2014, 10:32am
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Officials Manual pg 21 says to sound whistle when play is about to begin only following a charged time out an intermission or an unusual delay. Do any areas regularly sound whistle following a substitution?
We whistle in every sub.
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Old Fri Feb 21, 2014, 11:30am
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We whistle in every sub.
You whistle them in, but do you whistle again to resume play?
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Old Fri Feb 21, 2014, 11:40am
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You whistle them in, but do you whistle again to resume play?
Oh.

No, not unless there's an appreciable delay.

There's little consistency in this area on endline frontcourt throw-ins, though. Some whistle, some don't. It was downright bizarre when one of my partners over Christmas whistled and the head coach told him that it wasn't a proper mechanic and to please stop it because it throws off his players. I stayed out of that one.
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Old Fri Feb 21, 2014, 06:35pm
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Oh.

No, not unless there's an appreciable delay.

There's little consistency in this area on endline frontcourt throw-ins, though. Some whistle, some don't. It was downright bizarre when one of my partners over Christmas whistled and the head coach told him that it wasn't a proper mechanic and to please stop it because it throws off his players. I stayed out of that one.
Amusingly, the coach is correct for NFHS.
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Old Fri Feb 21, 2014, 11:57pm
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it throws off his players
Uh, what?
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Old Sat Feb 22, 2014, 01:43am
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Amusingly, the coach is correct for NFHS.
I know, but claiming it throws off his players was utter nonsense. I found out later this coach was also a varsity-level official before he became a coach and he does stuff like this to try to work officials.

Same guy told me he'd send me the film after the FIRST foul we called, BTW. Good times.
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Old Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:02am
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Oh.

No, not unless there's an appreciable delay.

There's little consistency in this area on endline frontcourt throw-ins, though. Some whistle, some don't. It was downright bizarre when one of my partners over Christmas whistled and the head coach told him that it wasn't a proper mechanic and to please stop it because it throws off his players. I stayed out of that one.
Why would you whistle there?
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Old Sat Feb 22, 2014, 07:18am
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...Same guy told me he'd send me the film after the FIRST foul we called, BTW. Good times.
Sounds like grounds for a T. Not sure that I would, but I believe I read from somebody around here that they'd whack a coach for talking about doing something like this.
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Old Sat Feb 22, 2014, 08:54am
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Why would you whistle there?
It's an NCAAW mechanic. SO, some do it in HS. It can be a signal to tell the T to raise his/her hand for the throw-in.
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Old Sat Feb 22, 2014, 08:55am
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Sounds like grounds for a T. Not sure that I would, but I believe I read from somebody around here that they'd whack a coach for talking about doing something like this.
I hear lots of things from "somebody around here" that I wouldn't do.

A T in this instance is way over the top, imo.
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Old Sat Feb 22, 2014, 01:24pm
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Uh, what?
Easy to see how. When I'm supposed to sound my whistle, i.e., after a timeout, sometimes some of the offensive players will start their inbounds play, setting screens, V-cuts, etc. on the whistle, while others will wait for the inbounder to say, "Go", slap the ball, etc. That half second lag time can screw up a good inbounds play, but that's the fault of the players, and coaching staff, not the officials.
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