Survey Says ...

[Camron Rust]

Largely agree....a couple of exceptions....

Originally Posted by frezer11

3. Changing the number of time-outs to 3-30s and 2-60s.
-No, not necessary
I'm indifferent on this one. Can't see that it matters much.
5. Playing with the 3-foot restricted-area arc to assist with calling block/charge on a secondary defender.
-Yes. A defender standing under the hoop is a cheap way to get a charge.
No. It doesn't assist with anything, it changes the rules. It doesn't improve the game. It only penalizes defenders who hustle to cut off the path to the basket. Offensive players who continue to barrel ahead seeing a defender cutting off tier path and can't complete the shot without running over someone deserve a charge.
9. Not using the "stop the clock signal" on violations.
-No. No need to hot dog.
I'm indifferent on this one. WHy do you consider it hot dogging?
11. Eliminating the opportunity for the head coach to call time-out. It would have to come from a player on the playing court.
-No. Why in the world would a coach not be able to signal time out?
YES! Go back to the way it was before. Put the game more into the hands of the players...or only let coaches request a timeout during a dead ball with the clock stopped.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Largely agree....a couple of exceptions....

I guess "Hot dogging" isn't really the term I was looking for, but I still don't like the change, on every single whistle a hand goes up, either open palm or closed fist. Not that timers look at us every time, but the way the rules are written, I think if you change this you'd have to change the wording on other things too, and it seems unneccessary. I don't think putting the hand up to stop the clock is that big of a hindrance that it needs to be removed.

I see your points on the arc. Personally, I think the offensive player should be allowed to complete a layup and land behind the backboard as part of the shot, and not have to worry about a defender stepping in behind the hoop late. That said, while I wouldn't mind seeing it, I understand that leaving it alone has merit too.

As for the coach's time out, not sure we'll ever see eye to eye on that one! Haha, I guess I just think of the head coach as just as much a part of the team as the players, and he should have the right to call and be granted a time out at any time.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by frezer11

I see your points on the arc. Personally, I think the offensive player should be allowed to complete a layup and land behind the backboard as part of the shot, and not have to worry about a defender stepping in behind the hoop late. That said, while I wouldn't mind seeing it, I understand that leaving it alone has merit too.

If the defender is late (after the shooter is airborne) getting there, it should be a block in any case....just like anywhere else.

I just think the offensive player shouldn't be jumping for the layup to start with if a defender has already positioned themselves in the path the shooter needs to go through in order to land. The defender has done their job of taking a way a path desired by their opponent. It should then be up to that opponent to stop or change directions.

Originally Posted by frezer11

As for the coach's time out, not sure we'll ever see eye to eye on that one! Haha, I guess I just think of the head coach as just as much a part of the team as the players, and he should have the right to call and be granted a time out at any time.

I think the coach should be coaching the players on what to do and when and be less directly involved in the flow of the game itself.

[Terrapins Fan]

Part III – About Rules For 2014-15 – Would You Favor?

1. Allowing participants to wear tights.
who cares?

2. Allowing the use of the "punch" signal for player-control foul as well as team-control foul.
Sure...

3. Changing the number of time-outs to 3-30s and 2-60s.
Oh, good...why? make all times outs 45 seconds. PERIOD.

4. Allowing the 3-point line to be moved out by 2 inches.
That would be a nightmare for most schools painting the floor.

5. Playing with the 3-foot restricted-area arc to assist with calling block/charge on a secondary defender.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO

6. Allowing the use of a shot clock as a state adoption option.

Md, does it in girls ball now. I like it over all.

7. Allowing the use of 18-minute halves as a state adoption option.
Why 18? Why not 16? I can say having done 20 minute halves, it is a long time between breaks if coaches do not use their timeouts...

8. Adding more signals to the “signal chart.”
Such as???

9. Not using the "stop the clock signal" on violations.
Just when you get good at it... but the whistle is what actually stops the clock, not the hand. I can raise my hand all night, it they don't hear my whistle, they are not going to stop the clock...

10. Clarifying when the clock starts on a missed free throw that hasn't been touched and is rolling on the floor.
...?....

11. Eliminating the opportunity for the head coach to call time-out. It would have to come from a player on the playing court.
I like that, they would not...

12. Eliminating the requirement for players or coaches to verify that compression sleeves are worn for medical reasons.

So tired of being the fashion police...

13. Allowing players to move into the lane on the release rather than wait for the ball to contact the ring.

back and forth and back and forth, decide on a rule and stick with it...

14. Clarifying language on what announcers can announce during the contest.
why???let it be...JMO

[JetMetFan]

I'm just going to pick out the highlights...

4. Allowing the 3-point line to be moved out by 2 inches.
I don't think it's needed. In H.S. kids who can't shoot 3s really don't.

5. Playing with the 3-foot restricted-area arc to assist with calling block/charge on a secondary defender.
No, no, 1,000 times NO!!! I haven't dealt with it yet in an NCAAW game (knock wood) but I think it would be a mess at the H.S. level, especially in states that do 2-person most of the season...such as the two where I work.

6. Allowing the use of a shot clock as a state adoption option.
I can live without it. Roughly 3% of H.S. basketball players go on to play some form of college ball. Putting in a shot-clock really only benefits - for lack of a better word - those kids since they'll use it at the next level. Another observation: It's used in all of my NYC GV games and some of my NYC BV games now. The biggest problem is finding someone to run the thing properly.

12. Eliminating the requirement for players or coaches to verify that compression sleeves are worn for medical reasons.
I don't know why NFHS wrings its hands over this. Just follow what the NCAA does and be done with it.

13. Allowing players to move into the lane on the release rather than wait for the ball to contact the ring.
I agree with Terp. Just make up your minds one way or another and we'll deal. It gets confusing for the GV players in my area since kids in NYC/NYS use the NCAA rule and those in NJ use the NFHS rule. I worked a game in NYC a few weeks ago and the visitor was from NJ. The NJ kids were beaten into the lane on most of the FTs because they kept forgetting they could go in on the release.

I am disappointed they are not considering removing the requirement for a coach to sit after a tech. You would think 2 shots + the ball + 1 tech closer to ejection would be sufficient punishment.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I am disappointed they are not considering removing the requirement for a coach to sit after a tech. You would think 2 shots + the ball + 1 tech closer to ejection would be sufficient punishment.

That will never be removed. The NFHS considers the coaching box a privilege, not a right. Sometimes a well-placed T is a good tool to get a head coach to sit down and keep himself from getting ejected.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I'm just going to pick out the highlights...

4. Allowing the 3-point line to be moved out by 2 inches.
I don't think it's needed. In H.S. kids who can't shoot 3s really don't.

[/B]

I think / hope that was a typo, and they meant 12" -- to match the NCAA line.

Still, I wonder what "allow" means (in this context).