Help with odd Scenario

[bob jenkins]

Grant the TO *before* the first FT.

On the coaching box issue, it's area dependent.

[CountTheBasket]

I would not just turn around and wack that coach for being out of the box without knowing anything else about what led up to it. I would actually think no matter what, based on the time and situation he would get a stern "Coach, you need to get back in your box and then I will talk to you" and as long as he did oblige and return immediatley there's no need for a T. I'm also a little unclear about what the big deal was for end of game. The ref blew his whistle when he shouldn't have, but it sounds like there was really no influence on the shot at all.

[Huntin' Ref]

Originally Posted by CountTheBasket

I would not just turn around and wack that coach for being out of the box without knowing anything else about what led up to it. I would actually think no matter what, based on the time and situation he would get a stern "Coach, you need to get back in your box and then I will talk to you" and as long as he did oblige and return immediatley there's no need for a T. I'm also a little unclear about what the big deal was for end of game. The ref blew his whistle when he shouldn't have, but it sounds like there was really no influence on the shot at all.

Agreed. There was no impact other than the stoppage in play could have "iced" the shooter. The player made both FT's and tied the game so there was no impact. It was just interesting. Like I said, I want to view the video as there must be more too it. I had 10 different people text me about it. Several were officials and several were fans that have common sense so they were just inquiring about the situation.

[Scuba_ref]

Originally Posted by Huntin' Ref

Agreed. There was no impact other than the stoppage in play could have "iced" the shooter. The player made both FT's and tied the game so there was no impact. It was just interesting. Like I said, I want to view the video as there must be more too it. I had 10 different people text me about it. Several were officials and several were fans that have common sense so they were just inquiring about the situation.

Doesn't blowing the whistle and all three officials huddling also "ice" the shooter? At this point the game is interrupted by an inadvertent whistle and a timeout may be granted.

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by Scuba_ref

Doesn't blowing the whistle and all three officials huddling also "ice" the shooter? At this point the game is interrupted by an inadvertent whistle and a timeout may be granted.

Does the Coach have to re-request it now that the ball is dead in order for it to be granted or does his original request carry over from the inadvertent whistle and now he must be charged with the time out?

[CountTheBasket]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

Does the Coach have to re-request it now that the ball is dead in order for it to be granted or does his original request carry over from the inadvertent whistle and now he must be charged with the time out?

No rule book in front of me, but based on common sense I would say charge the timeout. If he caused the inadvertant whistle with his request and had no timeout's left, the team is certianly going to get hit with the T.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

Does the Coach have to re-request it now that the ball is dead in order for it to be granted or does his original request carry over from the inadvertent whistle and now he must be charged with the time out?

There is (or was) some case to the affect that "A1 is dribbling when coach B requests a TO. The official blows the whistle. Ruling: Grant the TO."

It's the same thing here. The TO is granted.

[BatteryPowered]

I seem to remember something that says the TO is granted even when the official inadvertantly blows the whistle.

I had it happen to me last Saturday. It was a slow paced game (read B-O-R-I-N-G!!!!) and I was thinking about focusing on my mechanics when the visiting coach requested a TO as I went by. I blew the whistle and immediately cussed myself under my breath because his team was on defense. Coach said "My bad, I made you look bad and know better. Forget the request and lets go with an inadvertant." So I put the ball back in play and kicked myself again for good measure.