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Old Thu Dec 12, 2013, 02:23pm
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I am with holding comment per the "whistle at first horn" but a team does not have 15 seconds more to its TO. Both teams are to be ready to play by the second horn.

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Their timeout is either 60 seconds or 30 seconds long. The horn comes 15 seconds before that time limit. So they aren't getting "15 seconds more to its TO". They are getting their allotted time. Making them leave their bench area at the first horn is taking time away from them.
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Old Thu Dec 12, 2013, 02:34pm
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Their timeout is either 60 seconds or 30 seconds long. The horn comes 15 seconds before that time limit. So they aren't getting "15 seconds more to its TO". They are getting their allotted time. Making them leave their bench area at the first horn is taking time away from them.

I am guessing that after the second horn you wait for both teams to break their respective huddles and move out onto the court and a thrower comes to you to receive the ball from you, meaning that the teams are not ready to resume play by the second horn as required by rule.

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Old Thu Dec 12, 2013, 04:33pm
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I am guessing that after the second horn you wait for both teams to break their respective huddles and move out onto the court and a thrower comes to you to receive the ball from you, meaning that the teams are not ready to resume play by the second horn as required by rule.

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You are guessing wrong, then. Total time between the second horn and the time we put the ball in play is probably 5 seconds or less. But I do not make them leave their bench area at the first horn. Being ready to play does not mean that you have the thrower standing beside you already.
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Old Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:11pm
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What I am about to say applies to both 30 and 60 second timeouts. The warning buzzer is just that: It warns both teams that the ball will be put into play in 15 seconds; it means that the both teams are to be ready to play in 15 seconds. When the second horn sounds the administering official is to place the ball at the disposable of the team entitled to make the throw-in.

The administering official should not have to wait for team(s) to break it or their huddles after the second horn is sounded.

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Old Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:17pm
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What I am about to say applies to both 30 and 60 second timeouts. The warning buzzer is just that: It warns both teams that the ball will be put into play in 15 seconds; it means that the both teams are to be ready to play in 15 seconds. When the second horn sounds the administering official is to place the ball at the disposable of the team entitled to make the throw-in.

The administering official should not have to wait for team(s) to break it or their huddles after the second horn is sounded.

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Doing what I think you're suggesting...putting the ball immediately at the disposal as soon as the second horn hits...would amount to career suicide if one wants to do more than middle school ball. I agree we don't want to let teams delay the game too long after the 2nd horn, but realistic appliciation of the rules around timeouts and resuming play from that timeout dictate that you WILL wait for a short period of time to let teams break their huddles.

Of course, this is all IMO...and YMMW.
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