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Old Sat Nov 30, 2013, 11:24am
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And it gets more common with each passing year. I can't get my partners to call it in HS games…probably because D1 guys let it go on a consistent basis.
This has been a meeting emphasis around here, so it gets called. Every time? No, but it does get called.
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What's the odds that one person says it isn't?

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Old Sat Nov 30, 2013, 03:44pm
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Old Sat Nov 30, 2013, 07:29pm
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I call those illegal spin moves travels more than most officials I work with, but I still miss them sometimes. I work both HS and college schedules. So are we going to blame D1 officials for me missing it when I do?
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Old Sat Nov 30, 2013, 07:57pm
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I call those illegal spin moves travels more than most officials I work with, but I still miss them sometimes. I work both HS and college schedules. So are we going to blame D1 officials for me missing it when I do?

No matter who you are, if you missed this play, I blame you. This is easy to see from any angle, from any distance. I knew he was going to travel before he traveled. Somebody find me a couple of spin moves by a player attacking the basket where a travel is correctly called and I'll drop the assertion that they are being deliberately ignored........maybe.
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Old Sat Nov 30, 2013, 08:06pm
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... Somebody find me a couple of spin moves by a player attacking the basket where a travel is correctly called and I'll drop the assertion that they are being deliberately ignored........maybe.
Does this include HS games where they are missed regularly, but are not replayed on ESPN?
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I call those illegal spin moves travels more than most officials I work with, but I still miss them sometimes. I work both HS and college schedules. So are we going to blame D1 officials for me missing it when I do?
Why not? Can you think of a better scapegoat?
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What's the odds that one person says it isn't?
I have better odds that people like yourself will say you would have gotten this without a doubt better than the guys that actually were on the game. It is a travel and it is a tough get at full speed. I have less problem with this travel missed than plays that I see missed that are much easier at the high school level. But I digress.

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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 09:34pm
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I don't understand what any missed call at the high school level has to do with this. And the guys at the junior high level might miss worse calls than that. At the guy at the rec game who had never been on the court before was worse than any of them.

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I don't understand what any missed call at the high school level has to do with this. And the guys at the junior high level might miss worse calls than that. At the guy at the rec game who had never been on the court before was worse than any of them.

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Because YOU act like games on ESPN are the only gyms where spin move travels are missed.

I just watched a HS game on local cable where an obvious travel on a spin move was missed. What's your point bringing this up every week?
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Does anyone think we may see a POE on plays like this from the NFHS in the near future?
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 11:22pm
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Because YOU act like games on ESPN are the only gyms where spin move travels are missed.

I just watched a HS game on local cable where an obvious travel on a spin move was missed. What's your point bringing this up every week?

My point is that there are too many of them for me to believe that they are all being missed. It is my idea that this is somehow done by design in the name of promoting more offense. Deliberately ignored? Maybe not, but the screws have really been tightened.

"Don't call a travel unless you can reenact a close up view of each foot in your mind."

I find the finished product disturbing. Are there just as many missed in high school games? Couldn't say, but I think not. And, hey, aren't the guys on tv supposed to be better then me?
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I don't understand what any missed call at the high school level has to do with this. And the guys at the junior high level might miss worse calls than that. At the guy at the rec game who had never been on the court before was worse than any of them.

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Because everytime these plays are discussed, you and other people here that see a travel in every move act like no one else but you is calling them correctly. And we have people here that also suggest all the time that they call a totally different game at the JH level than at the HS level as well. I know JH or younger kids travel without trying and I doubt most are calling every technical travel with every move a kid makes just when they have the ball. I have just watched enough high school games of mine and others and seen missed travels and really see them on spin moves which IMO are very hard to see in transition like this play in question.

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