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Old Sun Nov 24, 2013, 08:35pm
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Duke-Vermont Video Clip Request (Clip Added)

Duke Vermont Video Clip Request..2nd half about 11.0 seconds left..Vermont player shoots a 3 and Duke defender falls to ground and airborne Vermont Player lands on Duke player on floor and falls.

Question: NFHS Ruling and NCAA Ruling.

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Old Sun Nov 24, 2013, 10:10pm
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I just watched it. There shouldn’t be any difference in codes. It’s a block on B1 since he didn’t allow A1 a spot to come down.
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 12:27am
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Different, but similar situation:

A1 is dribbling the ball. B1 is on the ground. A1 trips over B1 either while dribbling or gathering/holding the ball. NFHS = travel (provided he travelled by rule), NCAA = block. Correct?
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 12:40am
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Different, but similar situation:

A1 is dribbling the ball. B1 is on the ground. A1 trips over B1 either while dribbling or gathering/holding the ball. NFHS = travel (provided he travelled by rule), NCAA = block. Correct?
NFHS: It would depend on how/when/ where B1 got on the ground.
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 12:40am
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Different, but similar situation:

A1 is dribbling the ball. B1 is on the ground. A1 trips over B1 either while dribbling or gathering/holding the ball. NFHS = travel (provided he travelled by rule), NCAA = block. Correct?

It is impossible to travel if you are dribbling the ball.
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 01:06am
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NFHS: It would depend on how/when/ where B1 got on the ground.
Agree.
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 01:20am
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 03:12am
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Now that I've seen the video, that should be a foul at all levels. It is a dangerous play and should be penalized every time.
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 08:38am
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This play is a no brainer, just a reminder to always protect the shooter.
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 08:49am
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Now that I've seen the video, that should be a foul at all levels. It is a dangerous play and should be penalized every time.
How many free throws?
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 09:10am
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How many free throws?
6, how many do you think? The shot went in, the answer to your question is pretty straight forward and simple.
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 09:27am
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How many free throws?
Are you implying that it might have been a F1 (or F2, or I or F in HS) foul?
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 01:13pm
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Yeah, the Duke player landed and rolled under the shooter. The Duke player may not have meant to, but it doesn't matter. Good call by the official.
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 01:14pm
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How many free throws?
If the shot goes in, 1, if not 3.

It is definitely not a FF1/FF2 unless I felt he did it on purpose in an attempt to hurt the shooter and I'm not going to split hairs over whether one of the shooter's toes touched down before actually contacting the defender.
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this play is a no brainer, just a reminder to always protect the shooter.
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