First tossed coach of the season!

[BryanV21]

First of all, I agree with Johnny D that the HC should have been T'd up right away.

It's like allowing teams to get away with a lot of rough play early, and then trying to get them to settle down later in the game. It sounds like this HC thought he could get away with all that chirping, and was taken aback when he was told to calm down. Why not tell him earlier that he needs to dial it back?

I'm not blaming you or your partners for what you/they did or didn't do, I'm just saying things could have possibly been avoided by nipping them in the bud earlier.

As for another official stepping in, we are taught to do that. I know that if I was having a problem with a coach and had to whack him, I'd rather have a partner try and talk to him about it, because chances are that coach doesn't want to hear it from me.

[egj13]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Why not tell him earlier that he needs to dial it back?

I had warned the entire bench about 2 minutes prior to this incident.

I am in a new pool this year...part of being military is starting over every 3-4 years...and they take A LOT from coaches here. We discussed as crews during my first 3 nights and all 3 crews told me "that was just their thing." They say that is why they get so many contracts...and believe me they have this whole part of the state locked down...is because they are "approachable". I came from a pool where we didn't take nothing, and I mean nothing so I am trying to adjust and not be the lone wolf in the pool.

So like I said, about 2 minutes prior I had walked over as they came out of a huddle and told all 3 coaches "your leash is getting short fellas, lets clean this up."

[j51969]

Originally Posted by egj13

I had warned the entire bench about 2 minutes prior to this incident.

I am in a new pool this year...part of being military is starting over every 3-4 years...and they take A LOT from coaches here. We discussed as crews during my first 3 nights and all 3 crews told me "that was just their thing." They say that is why they get so many contracts...and believe me they have this whole part of the state locked down...is because they are "approachable". I came from a pool where we didn't take nothing, and I mean nothing so I am trying to adjust and not be the lone wolf in the pool.

So like I said, about 2 minutes prior I had walked over as they came out of a huddle and told all 3 coaches "your leash is getting short fellas, lets clean this up."

I feel your pain brother. I moved first part of SEP, and starting over again.

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by egj13

So like I said, about 2 minutes prior I had walked over as they came out of a huddle and told all 3 coaches "your leash is getting short fellas, lets clean this up."

I'm not a fan of this. I think it would be better to be direct and to the point. No slang, no colloquialisms, nothing vague. "I've heard enough about our calls and I want it stopped." or something to that effect. Then poof, outta there.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

If you really want to keep this coach in the game(personally, I wouldn't), you just issue a single bench technical for the actions of the ASSistants. You can say that one of them said something that was over the line, you're just not sure which one, and that still puts them all on warning.

I have also been taught that once you T a coach, you get out of there and let one of your partners take the position in front of the bench. In a 3 man crew, we generally have the calling official go far side to administer the throw in. That way, if the coach is giving someone an earful right then that requires a second T, it's a DIFFERENT official that makes the call. And if it's the same official calling the T, it's pretty likely that everyone in the gym knows why he got it.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

If you really want to keep this coach in the game(personally, I wouldn't), you just issue a single bench technical for the actions of the ASSistants. You can say that one of them said something that was over the line, you're just not sure which one, and that still puts them all on warning.

No need to claim one said something at all. While they all did, they each earned a T when they stood up to challenge the official. If you want, pick one and tag him for being furthest out, first up, the tallest, or the ugliest. I don't think it matters.

Personally, giving one asst coach a T after the HC gets his first is going to let him know he needs to not only control his behavior, but also the bench.

Frankly, just giving him his 2nd was the best route anyway.