First tossed coach of the season!

[egj13]

Well 12 games into my new home and it happened already...

BV game, visiting head coach had sat on the bench as the assistant during the JV game and was tolerable...but barely. I didn't even know he was the varsity coach at the time, just thought he was some blowhard JV assistant.

V game starts and from the first whistle he is irrate about something, all over all 3 of us for nothing. So at the end of the first quarter the foul count is 9-2..in this guys favor but he still isn't happy. My U1 calls a travel on his kid, and he starts in...2 plays later he is still talking about the travel call and now U2 is bench side. I see U2 tell him to settle before he gets the seatbelt and he starts in "you can't tell me to do that, who do you think you are?"...no serious, those were his words. U2 bangs him and the fireworks go off naturally. All 3 coaches are up in U2's face giving him "feedback". So I trot over to step in and get U2 out of the situation and about 5 feet out, coach turns and starts yelling at me and throws his hand in the air...I whacked him again. Hell U2 hadn't even reported the first T yet it happened so fast.

Part of me thinks I hit him a little quick but I was already thinking I didn't want to hear this fella for 32 minutes. So he made it about 11 of those 32 and then was escorted off the court...yeah he refused to leave. I mean it would have happened eventually but I had to assure my new pool-mates that I didn't make a habit of tossing coaches in the 2nd quarter!

Game ended up being a beaut though...the visiting team came back from 14 down in the 4th quarter and won it on a sweet turn around jumper from the baseline with 2 ticks left.

So I am curious though...and I know some of your answer from the seatbelt thread. In my last 3 associations/states, if you whacked a coach, you would report and then go administer the shots or take the C position to get away from the bench. When we discussed what happened at halftime yesterday U2 said "we probably could have avoided that if you hadn't come over." I admit I reacted out of habit but he wanted to stay and "let the coach talk" as he put it. Do any of you share this practice in your pools where you report the "T" and then stay there?

[j51969]

I don't have a problem if your partner wants to stay and have this engagement with the coach (his decision probably wouldn't be mine). But, that’s 1 on 1 and he may be letting this guy get it out of his system. However, when the assistants get involved as well; I believe you did the right thing in coming over. Different strokes for different folks. I would have probably extracted myself out of the confrontation. Especially given his behavior in the previous game.

[MD Longhorn]

You didn't eject him. He ejected himself. If this is his norm, he's in for a long season.

[egj13]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

You didn't eject him. He ejected himself. If this is his norm, he's in for a long season.

My thoughts exactly...makes me wonder what he got away with the first 2 weeks of this season as it was.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by egj13

All 3 coaches are up in U2's face giving him "feedback". So I trot over to step in and get U2 out of the situation

Same thing I would have done had this happened to a partner.

After that, it's kind of HTBT. If he's going to keep yelling at me just for getting my partner away from his hyenas, I'm going to whack him like you did. He doesn't get a free pass because he got one technical.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by egj13

Well 12 games into my new home and it happened already...



My U1 calls a travel on his kid, and he starts in...2 plays later he is still talking about the travel call and now U2 is bench side. I see U2 tell him to settle before he gets the seatbelt and he starts in "you can't tell me to do that, who do you think you are?"...no serious, those were his words. U2 bangs him and the fireworks go off naturally. All 3 coaches are up in U2's face giving him "feedback".

1. If he is complaining about a call 2 plays later there is no reason to talk to this guy or try to settle him. Whack number 1 here no discussion needed.

2. Tell your U2 he needs to vacate the area and make a new play. There is not ever a reason to stay and discuss a T on the coach with said coach. They know exactly what they got it for and if they don't it isn't our problem they are mental midgets. This is especially true if your U2 doesn't have the stones to bang the guy again when he continues to act like a tool.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by egj13

So I am curious though...and I know some of your answer from the seatbelt thread. In my last 3 associations/states, if you whacked a coach, you would report and then go administer the shots or take the C position to get away from the bench. When we discussed what happened at halftime yesterday U2 said "we probably could have avoided that if you hadn't come over." I admit I reacted out of habit but he wanted to stay and "let the coach talk" as he put it. Do any of you share this practice in your pools where you report the "T" and then stay there?

With a coach that far out of control, your U2 had no business being in there letting the coach talk.

Frankly, coach should have probably been dealt with sooner if he was that much of a PITA for the first quarter. But if he wasn't, I probably would have offered a "let it go, coach" pretty soon after that travel if he was still complaning.

I'm not convinced I wouldn't have popped both the ACs instead of giving the HC his 2nd. Same result, two more FTs, and both ACs are now one idiot move away from their own early exit.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Adam

I'm not convinced I wouldn't have popped both the ACs instead of giving the HC his 2nd. Same result, two more FTs, and both ACs are now one idiot move away from their own early exit.

The HC would still be gone if you got each assistant. That's 2 indirects to the HC. Along with the one he already got.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by Adam

With a coach that far out of control, your U2 had no business being in there letting the coach talk.

Frankly, coach should have probably been dealt with sooner if he was that much of a PITA for the first quarter. But if he wasn't, I probably would have offered a "let it go, coach" pretty soon after that travel if he was still complaning.

I'm not convinced I wouldn't have popped both the ACs instead of giving the HC his 2nd. Same result, two more FTs, and both ACs are now one idiot move away from their own early exit.

Adam, if you T'd both AC's, would that be 2 shots, or 4? Would that be 2 Indirect T's to the HC, and require his ejection?

[BigT]

Originally Posted by Adam

With a coach that far out of control, your U2 had no business being in there letting the coach talk.

Frankly, coach should have probably been dealt with sooner if he was that much of a PITA for the first quarter. But if he wasn't, I probably would have offered a "let it go, coach" pretty soon after that travel if he was still complaning.

I'm not convinced I wouldn't have popped both the ACs instead of giving the HC his 2nd. Same result, two more FTs, and both ACs are now one idiot move away from their own early exit.

Adam I really like this. The AC's are not allowed to jump up and talk to us much less jump on the band wagon. This allows us to take care of the bench without ejecting the coach. Could we even huddle at mid court and let them simmer while we report the first T and the AC T('s)?

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by BigT

Adam I really like this. The AC's are not allowed to jump up and talk to us much less jump on the band wagon. This allows us to take care of the bench without ejecting the coach.

Too bad, as has already been pointed out, the bold part isn't true. One direct, plus two indirects equals bye bye coach.

[BigT]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Too bad, as has already been pointed out, the bold part isn't true. One direct, plus two indirects equals bye bye coach.

They were posting that as I was posting. Great point. Obviously we are trying to find a way not to eject the coach. I am curious see how you guys avoid this if at all possible.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by BigT

Obviously we are trying to find a way not to eject the coach.

Why? The coach is well aware of what the potential consequences of his actions are. Once he gets the first one, it is his responsibility to control himself, not our responsibility to find a reason to allow him to continue to act like a jackass.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigT

They were posting that as I was posting. Great point. Obviously we are trying to find a way not to eject the coach. I am curious see how you guys avoid this if at all possible.

Actually, I was not looking for a way to avoid tossing the coach. That's the "same result" I was looking for; this coach deserved his exit.

But the ACs don't get to just jump in either without consequence.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

Adam, if you T'd both AC's, would that be 2 shots, or 4? Would that be 2 Indirect T's to the HC, and require his ejection?

4 shots.
2 indirects to the coach, that's 3 strikes to the champ, and he's out.