Deflected Throw-In Goes In

[rockyroad]

The throw-in ended when the ball was legally touched by the defender. There was never a throw (shot attempt) made by an offensive player. So the rules cited do not really apply. This would be two points.

[maven]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

The throw-in ended when the ball was legally touched by the defender. There was never a throw (shot attempt) made by an offensive player. So the rules cited do not really apply. This would be two points.

Yep. Live ball through the goal, does not meet the criteria for 3 points.

[jdd1172]

With that same scenario, what if time expires while the ball is in flight..do you count the basket or wave off the basket?

[tjones1]

Score two points in the OP.

Originally Posted by jdd1172

With that same scenario, what if time expires while the ball is in flight..do you count the basket or wave off the basket?

jdd - no basket.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by jdd1172

With that same scenario, what if time expires while the ball is in flight..do you count the basket or wave off the basket?

The period doesn't end until a TRY IN FLIGHT ends. This wasn't, so it does. Do not count the basket.

(Same as if the ball was thrown toward the opponent's basket.)

[HawkeyeCubP]

I agree with the 2-points rulings here, but I'd want to be careful not to mistakenly state that it's 2 because "you can score a 3-pt. basket from a throw-in," since the throw-in technically ended on the defensive deflection - even though that's essentially how we're logically getting there.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

I agree with the 2-points rulings here, but I'd want to be careful not to mistakenly state that it's 2 because "you can score a 3-pt. basket from a throw-in," since the throw-in technically ended on the defensive deflection - even though that's essentially how we're logically getting there.

OK then...how about we say that you can't score a 3 at your opponents basket?

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

OK then...how about we say that you can't score a 3 at your opponents basket?

Sure. But the OP was toward and into A's basket.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

I can't find a case on this, but I remember my association's interpreter giving a similar example when I went through training a couple years ago.

A1, outside the three point line attempts to throw the ball into the post. B1, also outside the 3 point line, deflects the pass and it goes into the basket. I'm 99% sure the instruction was "3 points" [FED rules]

Does the fact that the original pass was a throw in change the ruling?

The only way I would count 3 here is if the original pass was at such an angle as I couldn't tell if it had a chance to go in. If he's throwing a lob pass, then I'd be inclined to count it as three. If he's throwing a bounce pass and the initial trajectory is down (or even horizontal), I'd count it as 2.

On a throw in, I'd go 2 regardless.

Consider this play:

A1, in his backcourt, throws a pass towards A2, who is crossing into the FC. The pass is hits a) A2 or b) B2 (either is running outside the arc) in the head and caroms into the basket.

2 or 3?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

I agree with the 2-points rulings here, but I'd want to be careful not to mistakenly state that it's 2 because "you can score a 3-pt. basket from a throw-in," since the throw-in technically ended on the defensive deflection - even though that's essentially how we're logically getting there.

"If the original release had no chance at being worth three points, then the deflection can't be worth three points."

(edit: NCAA interp only. FED might be different.)

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

"If the original release had no chance at being worth three points, then the deflection can't be worth three points."

I like it.

[HokiePaul]

I can't find a case on this, but I remember my association's interpreter giving a similar example when I went through training a couple years ago.

A1, outside the three point line attempts to throw the ball into the post. B1, also outside the 3 point line, deflects the pass and it goes into the basket. I'm 99% sure the instruction was "3 points" [FED rules]

Does the fact that the original pass was a throw in change the ruling?