Dunk, then PC Crash - Basket Good?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Adam

I would think it would be ignored in NCAA, unless it was flagrant or intentional, since it's dead ball contact.

Dead ball? Yes. But still a common personal (if anything is to be called) since it involves an airborne shooter. Or does the NCAA not extend the live ball for an airborne shooter?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Dead ball? Yes. But still a common personal (if anything is to be called) since it involves an airborne shooter. Or does the NCAA not extend the live ball for an airborne shooter?

Good point, I made an assumption. Now that you ask, I confess I don't know.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Adam

Good point, I made an assumption. Now that you ask, I confess I don't know.

I believe they do. I wasn't certain either so this is what I've found....

Rule 4...
Section 1. Airborne Shooter
Art. 2. An airborne shooter is a player who has released the ball on a try for goal until that player has returned to the floor.

Section 73. Try for Goal/Act of Shooting
Art. 7. An airborne shooter, who is fouled by an opponent, while in the air but
after the ball is released shall be considered to be in the act of shooting until that airborne player returns to the floor.

As far as what the foul is, it isn't so explicit but I think it is buried as an exception in the fragrant 2 rule...

f. Flagrant 2 technical foul. A flagrant 2 technical foul can be either contact
or noncontact.
1. A flagrant 2 contact technical foul occurs when the ball is dead and the contact is not only excessive, but also severe or extreme.
a. An exception may be a foul committed by an airborne shooter.

I think this is where they are trying to say that an airborne shooter can commit a contact foul during a dead ball without it being considered flagrant. The NCAA wording is pretty sloppy here but I can't believe that they want a foul on an airborne shooter to be forced to be flagrant or nothing just because the ball has gone through the hoop before the shooter (dunker) lands.

[johnny d]

In NCAA-M it would be highly unlikely, not impossible, but highly unlikely that the defender could have established LGP in this situation. Most often, this is going to be a secondary defender and probably inside the RA.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by johnny d

In NCAA-M it would be highly unlikely, not impossible, but highly unlikely that the defender could have established LGP in this situation. Most often, this is going to be a secondary defender and probably inside the RA.

Not sure that it's highly unlikely if a big post player has managed to shove his defender under the basket without getting a foul called.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by Adam

Not sure that it's highly unlikely if a big post player has managed to shove his defender under the basket without getting a foul called.

Really, you see this play happen often? Maybe you should stop watching old tapes of LSU from the Shaq era.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Really, you see this play happen often? Maybe you should stop watching old tapes of LSU from the Shaq era.

Nah, I didn't realize we were talking about real life frequency. In that case, the entire play is highly unlikely.