Thoughts? (video)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Here's a question for you, BNR, and everyone else: Put yourself in the L's shoes on Play #2. You see that play coming at you and you see the contact an the kid hits the deck. Does the thought, "I need to put a whistle on this, even if it's late, given what happened at the other end" go through your head?

I cannot as the L how you really see the entire play from that position. I think the C has to get this. I am not someone who just likes to call a foul just because a player goes to the floor. Yes I might call a foul if I see the entire play, but this looks like and off balance player that hits the floor. I certainly would not be mad if someone called a foul here, I just think it was suspect.

Peace

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I cannot as the L how you really see the entire play from that position. I think the C has to get this. I am not someone who just likes to call a foul just because a player goes to the floor. Yes I might call a foul if I see the entire play, but this looks like and off balance player that hits the floor. I certainly would not be mad if someone called a foul here, I just think it was suspect.

Peace

Fair point on seeing the whole play here and I'm not someone who likes to call contact just because someone hits the floor either but watching the L's positioning it appears as though he saw the play and if he didn't he should have. The secondary defender - the big who came over - is his responsibility.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

The answer to the question to what the new Lead should be thinking was "I can't have a foul for marginal contact on my end." So according to the big boys we should be taking account to what is called on the other end of the court.

Which, IMO, is a good answer. So on this play if you're seeing the contact and "that wasn't marginal" is what registers in your head then whistle should go. Meaning if the L followed that thought process he felt the contact on Play 2 was either marginal or he wasn't sure. The lack of a call still has me scratching my head especially since I watched the entire game and saw the quality of calls up to that point.

I guess another question given what they told you at the camp is would the flip side be true, meaning given what happened 17 seconds before should the L be thinking “if there’s a 50-50 here I should take it”?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

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I guess another question given what they told you at the camp is would the flip side be true, meaning given what happened 17 second before should the L be thinking “if there’s a 50-50 here I should take it”?

On that 2nd play they would have expected the C to step down with the play and have a whistle on that play or the Lead to have a cadence whistle when he realized the C didn't blow.

But to your specific question, I would think yes, they would have expected us to be cataloguing plays within that short of a timeframe, especially in the last minute of an overtime game.