Thoughts? (video)

[APG]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The call on one end has nothing to do with the call on the other end.



period

Perhaps that's true in your area...I've never heard any official working a high level of basketball ever suggest to call fouls/violations in a vacuum as you suggest. Not a single one.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by APG

...in a vacuum as you suggest ...

Wouldn't it be tough to breathe?

[just another ref]

Here's the deal. Explain to me how I'm wrong. Put the contact in four categories:


1. Nothing

2. Marginal contact, no advantage

3. Marginal contact, but advantage gained

4. Obvious foul


If you start calling this play based on what was called on the last play, sooner or later you will put a 3 in the 2 column or vice versa. (probably sooner) This is wrong any way you look at it. You can have 3 clean blocks in a row on one end and 3 fouls in a row on the other. It happens.

Just call the game.

[APG]

This is going to be area and maybe level dependent...but calls aren't judged in vacuum or in isolation. Close plays with marginal contact, are judged against the backdrop of what has or hasn't been called in the game.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by APG

This is going to be area and maybe level dependent...but calls aren't judged in vacuum or in isolation. Close plays with marginal contact, are judged against the backdrop of what has or hasn't been called in the game.

The backdrop of the entire game, yes. The backdrop of the previous play, no.

[APG]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The backdrop of the entire game, yes. The backdrop of the previous play, no.

This is just where we'll disagree. I've always been taught, assuming that a call/no-call wasn't a miss, that if you have one play on one end of the court, and then for all intents and purposes, a similar play on the other end, there better be a good reason for not having a similar call.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by APG

This is just where we'll disagree. I've always been taught, assuming that a call/no-call wasn't a miss, that if you have one play on one end of the court, and then for all intents and purposes, a similar play on the other end, there better be a good reason for not having a similar call.

There is no "similar call". Even though the plays may be an inch apart, they may still fall on opposite sides of the fence. The last call/no call has zero bearing on the play at hand.