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Old Tue Mar 26, 2013, 10:09pm
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Illegal Screen/Technical video--your thoughts?




My first try at this...hope it works. I would like your thoughts on both the illegal screen call and the subsequent technical foul on the Blue HC. Not that it matters either way, but I just want to clarify I was not part of the crew. Thanks!

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Old Tue Mar 26, 2013, 10:19pm
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My first try at this...hope it works.
You have the video listed as "Private". You need to go into the publishing settings for the video, and change it to either "Public" or "Unlisted". Public means the video can be searched for and found, unlisted requires you to share the link so that others can access it.
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Old Tue Mar 26, 2013, 10:29pm
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Ha, would have been too good to be true to get it right on the first try. I switched it to unlisted, so let's try it again.
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Old Tue Mar 26, 2013, 10:37pm
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Both look like pretty easy calls to me.
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Old Tue Mar 26, 2013, 10:44pm
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The illegal screen call looks fine to me. Not sure I would have called that one, but doesn't bother me that it was called. The T was an easy call, coach doesn't get to act like that.

My only issue with this situation is that both calls should have come from the C. The screen was set by a player who came from C's primary...he should have had that call. And the T was definitely the C's call. He was right there and heard and sould have seen everything the coach was saying and doing. No reason why the L had to come from clear across the court to get that one.
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Old Tue Mar 26, 2013, 10:46pm
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Easy Peasey Lemon Squeezy ...

1) Team control foul (illegal screen, blocking).
2) Direct technical foul (temper tantrum).
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Old Wed Mar 27, 2013, 10:45am
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The C could have called the technical, but the coach was stomping and throwing his arms while the C had his back to him. The lead probably had a better view of it.

The trail also had a view of the coach but I like another official coming in and helping out his partner so that the trail does not have to call both the common foul and the technical foul. Good teamwork in my opinion.
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Old Wed Mar 27, 2013, 06:29pm
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good call on the illegal screen - would have like some help from the C on that, but the L saw it coming

good call for the T
again the C could have helped here.

the three officials kind of together at the bench (were they all looking the same way once?)

the C going over to make the explanation - excellent
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Old Wed Mar 27, 2013, 06:46pm
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The T is definitely a "when in Rome" thing (based only on the short clip). In mnay areas you would be expected to ignore or adress in other ways before going to the T. If you issues the T this quickly and from this far away, you'd be viewed in a negative light.

I fully understand those who would call it based on the expectations and norms in their area.
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Old Wed Mar 27, 2013, 08:22pm
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If you issues the T this quickly and from this far away, you'd be viewed in a negative light.
Is this pretty much everywhere? Why is this? Should a technical always be left up to the closest official?
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Old Wed Mar 27, 2013, 09:04pm
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Is this pretty much everywhere? Why is this? Should a technical always be left up to the closest official?
Not in my area. Doesn't matter how far you are away when a T is deserved. In fact, a "partner protect" technical is preferred to the appearance of a personal confrontation between calling official and pissed-off coach. Around here, we emphasize that the official(s) facing the table always be scanning the benches to maintain bench control. Obviously, officials facing the benches are further away.
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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 09:06am
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Not in my area. Doesn't matter how far you are away when a T is deserved. In fact, a "partner protect" technical is preferred to the appearance of a personal confrontation between calling official and pissed-off coach. Around here, we emphasize that the official(s) facing the table always be scanning the benches to maintain bench control. Obviously, officials facing the benches are further away.
This is how I was trained as well. The C had his back to the coach and did not see the temper tantrum and foot stomping. The Trail had the call, the Lead saw the coach the whole way and had the T. Both calling officials then properly got away to avoid the situation escalating further and let the C offer any explaination to the coach.
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Old Wed Mar 27, 2013, 09:39pm
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Is this pretty much everywhere? Why is this? Should a technical always be left up to the closest official?
Sometimes the closest official is dealing with the situation and then you come in from far away and do what they should have been given a chance to do. Not to say that this specific situation applies, but you better be sure it is accepted by the people that hire you and your partner. That is why at least I would like to know the exchange before making a real judgment to the situation.

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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 07:39am
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Is this pretty much everywhere? Why is this? Should a technical always be left up to the closest official?
read it in conjunction with my entire brief statement.
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