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Old Tue Apr 17, 2007, 04:09pm
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Thoughts on this video???

I'm not sure I like the umpire's way of getting these players apart, what are your guys (more experienced) thoughts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1d-C...elated&search=
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Old Tue Apr 17, 2007, 04:15pm
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I'm not sure I like the umpire's way of getting these players apart, what are your guys (more experienced) thoughts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1d-C...elated&search=
The PU saved himself a lot of paperwork by keeping the players apart. I think that you are concerned with the grabbing of the F2's chest protector. It didn't seem out of line to me.

Personally, I don't get between the players. If they want to "have it out", I just stand back and start writing down the numbers.

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Old Tue Apr 17, 2007, 04:22pm
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I thought the ump did a remarkable job of stepping in before the two players had gotten too close.
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Old Tue Apr 17, 2007, 06:30pm
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We have it all planned ahead of time. In case of a fight, we meet on the mound and start taking down numbers. If the boys want to have at it, more power to them!!!
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Old Tue Apr 17, 2007, 07:55pm
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I'm sort of concerned not with the initial pull away but with the 2nd and to a lesser extent 3rd push, when it seems as though the players were already apart.

As I watched again, I realized the pushes weren't what I originally interpretted them to be on first viewing.

Still, should you ever put your hands on a player or coach in this manner?
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Old Tue Apr 17, 2007, 08:14pm
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I think in my state (Missouri), we have to document this, even if nothing really happen.
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Old Tue Apr 17, 2007, 10:42pm
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You never make physical contact with players...ever. Seperating players is the coach's job, not mine. I do not want to become part of the brawl. In this case, what if the player took exception to the umpire grabbing him and pushing him around and fought back?
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Old Wed Apr 18, 2007, 01:42am
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I think the umpire did the morally correct thing, and what I would want to see him do if it were my kid (catcher).

Here in California, birthplace of the frivolous lawsuit, I have seen coaches have legal action taken against them for just grabbing a player's jersey while talking to them.

So out here, it's hands off, and take down numbers. This is also our Associations official instructions and policy.
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Old Wed Apr 18, 2007, 02:03am
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You never make physical contact with players...ever. Seperating players is the coach's job, not mine. I do not want to become part of the brawl. In this case, what if the player took exception to the umpire grabbing him and pushing him around and fought back?
I disagree with you on this. It would depend on the level of ball as well. At the college level this is much more acceptable than at the HS level. I think the umpire handled this particular situation almost perfectly. Now if the players starting throwing blows, then I would agree, get out of the way and let them have at it.

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