Jump Ball - Movement Prior to Touch

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

I haven't found an instruction to ask for the "speaking captain(s)," only the duty to conduct the coach/captain meeting, in 2.1 A Referee's Duties 10. of the Officials Manual.

Rule 2-7-1

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"Who's the speaking captain". Wait? I'm being told that that's an actual rule. Never mind.

Originally Posted by Rob1968

I haven't found an instruction to ask for the "speaking captain(s),".

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Rule 2-7-1

2-7-1: The officials shall conduct the game in accordance with the rules. This includes: Notifying the captains when play is about to begin at the start of the
game.

3-1-1: Each team consists of five players, one of whom is the captain.

Rob1968: My reference to, "Who's the speaking captain", was actually done tongue in cheek. I was trying to get a "rise" out of some veteran Forum members. Some Forum members have disagreed about this "mechanic". Some will take the rule quite literally, that there is only one captain, and since they have to notify this one captain at the start of the game, and since almost all varsity teams have more than one captain come to the pregame coaches and captains meeting, they will ask for that one "speaking" captain in the pregame meeting. Some will actually go as far as asking if that "speaking" captain is starting, and, if not, ask for a "substitute speaking" captain that is starting. I guess that it would be unprofessional to just yell over to the captain sitting on the bench to notify him?

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Rule 2-7-1

Bob, I've not equated "2-7-1. . . Notifying the captains when play is about to begin at the start of the game.", with "asking for the speaking captain(s)." since one subject deals with the R speaking to the captain(s) while the other seems to be a determination of which player(s) may speak to the officials.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

Bob, I've not equated "2-7-1. . . Notifying the captains when play is about to begin at the start of the game.", with "asking for the speaking captain(s)." Since one subject deals with the R speaking to the captain(s) while the other seems to be a determination of which player(s) may speak to the officials.

Keeping in mind that I do not ask for "speaking" captains, according to the NFHS rulebook, there is only one captain on a team, who gets certain rights, and privileges (like getting to date the hottest cheerleader).

I, and many of my local colleagues, chose to ignore 3-1-1 (Each team consists of five players, one of whom is the captain), and will talk to any player who approaches us politely, and we'll notify any of the captains when we're ready to start the game, and will even notify a noncaptain if a captain isn't starting.

But to literally follow the NFHS rulebook, there is one, and only one, captain on each team, and that one captain is the captain that must be notified that the game is about to start.

(Note: When was the last time we had a Walt Whitman reference on the Basketball Forum?)

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

... and we'll notify any of the captains when we're ready to start the game, and will even notify a noncaptain if a captain isn't starting.

But to literally follow the NFHS rulebook, there is one, and only one, captain on each team, and that one captain is the captain that must be notified that the game is about to start.
...

I get a thumbs up from my partner(s). Then I blow my whistle which notifies all players, not just captains, that we are getting ready to start. I've never once in my entire career notified a captain that the game is about to start.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I blow my whistle which notifies all players, not just captains, that we are getting ready to start. I've never once in my entire career notified a captain that the game is about to start.

Are you copying me.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Are you copying me.

I really doubt it.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

Bob, I've not equated "2-7-1. . .

You should.

Or use 3-1-1 so you know who can address you if the situation is such that you don't want to talk to someone else.

And, I do ask the captains if their teams are ready in 90% of the (regular season) game in which I toss.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I do ask the captains if their teams are ready in 90% of the (regular season) game in which I toss.

I don't notify just the captains (see post #54), and certainly not just the "speaking" captains (because I don't know who they are), but in the spirit of "When in Rome ...", I have no problem with your mechanic. But I'm curious. Why not 100%? What about the other 10%?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I don't notify just the captains (see post #54), and certainly not just the "speaking" captains (because I don't know who they are), but in the spirit of "When in Rome ...", I have no problem with your mechanic. But I'm curious. Why not 100%? What about the other 10%?

One of the captains don't start or we stat with other than a jump ball (and I recognize the rule doesn't make an exception for that).