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Old Mon Apr 22, 2013, 01:07pm
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I get the same sense. many are at the AUU events to make the $3-400 and go home. I have seen some take the time to explain to kids what they are doing wrong and thats great to see. These things should be about making kids better since almost none of them will go anywhere after high school . So much of it is just about making money now its sad.
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Old Mon Apr 22, 2013, 01:12pm
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... I have seen some take the time to explain to kids what they are doing wrong and thats great to see....
That's really the coaches' and parents' job, especially if we're talking about AAU competition.

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These things should be about making kids better since almost none of them will go anywhere after high school . So much of it is just about making money now its sad. ....
I'm leaving my wife and my own kids at home to go officiate for a reason, and if I'm not in camp, it is #1 about making $$$. Once I'm on the court the players and coaches are going to get the best that I can give. But you will never, ever hear me say "I'm doing it for the kids".

I may do a specific event pro bono (as I did for the local Air Force base recently) but I did not get into officiate "for the kids". I got into it to may myself some $$$.
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Old Mon Apr 22, 2013, 01:28pm
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I get the same sense. many are at the AUU events to make the $3-400 and go home. I have seen some take the time to explain to kids what they are doing wrong and thats great to see. These things should be about making kids better since almost none of them will go anywhere after high school . So much of it is just about making money now its sad.
I'm with BNR, I'm not there to teach the kids. I'm there to provide a venue for coaches to do that. Younger levels, I might offer a few things during a game, but for the most part, I'm not coaching.

If I wanted to coach, I'd coach.

And frankly, Camron didn't note it, but if you wanted higher quality officiating, you'd have to pay more for it. With what AAU refs typically get paid, they have to do more games to make it worth their time and travel. Pay them more, and you'll get higher quality officials working fewer games each.

With what I get paid for summer ball, I'm just not in the mood to put up with much from fans or even coaches, frankly. It's not that I'm going to call a technical for conduct I'd put up with in high school; I'm just going to deal with it less patiently. I'm less inclined to warn coaches for borderline behavior. I'd rather spend my energy watching the players.

And fans in a 6th grade game are going to get less rope than they would in a high school game.
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I get the same sense. many are at the AUU events to make the $3-400 and go home. I have seen some take the time to explain to kids what they are doing wrong and thats great to see. These things should be about making kids better since almost none of them will go anywhere after high school . So much of it is just about making money now its sad.
Just out of curiousity ... do you do your regular job for the money? Or do you do it for the enjoyment of co-workers? Do you happily and regularly invite people to watch you work and have them yell at how bad you're doing? Do you invite people you don't work with to approach you either while your working or at the end of the day, and ask you why you did your job the way you did it?

Frankly, I'm stunned at your attitude in this thread. I invite you to buy some equipment and attend some clinics - and spend 30-40 hours a year without pay for the privilege of working, and THEN come here and tell us we should allow Joe Random Fan to come up to us between games.
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