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NFHS: A team tries to score by shooting the ball into their own basket.
Am I right, or do I have this half-ass-backward?
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Equipment ???
You may be right? Something about being allowed to use one's own "equipment"? I never did like that citation, mainly because I never really understood the rationale behind it, and how the interpretation related to the rules, as written.
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9.5 Situation ...
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ball against: (a) his/her own backboard; (b) the opponent’s backboard; or (c) an official and catches the ball after each. RULING: Legal in (a); a team’s own backboard is considered part of that team’s “equipment” and may be used. In (b) and (c), A1 has violated; throwing the ball against an opponent’s backboard or an official constitutes another dribble, provided A1 is first to touch the ball after it strikes the official or the board. (4-4-5; 4-15-1, 2; Fundamental 19) 4-4-5: A ball which touches the front faces or edges of the backboard is treated the same as touching the floor inbounds. 4-15-1: A dribble is ball movement caused by a player in control who bats (intentionally strikes the ball with the hand(s)) or pushes the ball to the floor once or several times. It is not a part of a dribble when the ball touches a player’s own backboard. Fundamental 19: A ball which touches the front face or edges of the backboard is treated the same as touching the floor inbounds, except that when the ball touches the thrower’s backboard, it does not constitute a part of a dribble. Food for thought: A1 dribbles and comes to a stop after which he throws the ball against his own backboard ... and catches the ball ... RULING: Legal ... a team’s own backboard is considered part of that team’s “equipment” and may be used. My question: Can he legally start a new dribble?
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Wrong. Everything you say is true if you throw it off the OPPONENT'S backboard. You've got ends of the floor confused.
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People also get these distinctions mixed up too, because in a sport like football you score points at the opponents end zone and defend your end zone. I see people get these mixed up in other sports where that classification is not the same as it relates to other sports where a "goal" is usually scored. It think soccer uses the same definitions as you see in football.
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I Like The Way You Think ...
Good one.
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Tuff Enuff (Fabulous Thunderbirds) ???
Anybody as tough as Jurassic Referee to tackle this one?
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Here are my answers which are based upon the definitions of player and team control.
1. As the player relinquished player control by throwing the ball off the backboard in his frontcourt, if he is able to retrieve the ball he has all rights as if he just caught a pass from a teammate. 2. Since only player and not team control ended, it would be a backcourt violation. The thrown ball does not automatically equate to a try for goal. |
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Thanks ...
Agree.
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Now you're going to allow him to start a new dribble? I need more convincing, and remember, this was a throw, not a try. NFHS 9-5: A player shall not dribble a second time after his/her first dribble has ended, unless it is after he/she has lost control because of: ART. 1 . A try for field goal. ART. 2 . A touch by an opponent. ART. 3 . A pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by, another player. Did the player lose control because of a try? No. Did the player lose control because of a touch by an opponent? No. Did the player lose control because of a pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by, another player? No. So why are you allowing the player to dribble a second time?
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4-4-5 tells us that a ball hitting the backboard is treated the same as a ball hitting the playing court. 4-15 tells us that throwing the ball off the backboard is not part of the dribble, but the dribble ends when the player catches the ball. So if he bats the ball up off the backboard and catches it, his dribble ends at the catch. He can't dribble again. |
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Even if the player catches the ball after having dribble, then throws it off the board, and then catches it again, the player is legal as that action is not considered a dribble. But it would be a violation to dribble again.
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