Side by side...

[JetMetFan]

I'm sure there have been strings on this in the past but...

Let's find the person who started the myth that opponents away from the restraining circle during a jump ball have to stand side-by-side and throw stuff at them. I think I've seen officials make kids move in every online h.s. game I've watched in the past month as well as most I've seen in person.

[Welpe]

Wow I can't say I've ever run into that one.

[JetMetFan]

I actually see it a lot in my neck of the woods. The R will look at A2 next to B2 10-20 feet away from the circle before the toss and tell them they have to be side-by-side. Drives me nuts.

[maven]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I actually see it a lot in my neck of the woods. The R will look at A2 next to B2 10-20 feet away from the circle before the toss and tell them they have to be side-by-side. Drives me nuts.

Never seen nor heard of that one.

[Indianaref]

Not around here.

[letemplay]

Had a ref tell a player (non-jumper) he could not straddle the midcourt stripe during the toss. Had to be one side or the other

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Had a ref tell a player (non-jumper) he could not straddle the midcourt stripe during the toss. Had to be one side or the other

Straying here, how about on tech or intentional foul, players need to be behind division line

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Let's find the person who started the myth that opponents away from the restraining circle during a jump ball have to stand side-by-side and throw stuff at them...

Must be a regional thing. I've never seen or heard anything like that before.

[Scuba_ref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Straying here, how about on tech or intentional foul, players need to be behind division line

This one drives me crazy. I have had discussions with our most senior officials about this error.

[BayStateRef]

The corollary to this: "Hold your spots" as the R enters the circle. I used to "help" my partners at half time by explaining the actual rule. No more.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

The corollary to this: "Hold your spots" as the R enters the circle. I used to "help" my partners at half time by explaining the actual rule. No more.

That annoys me too. Not enough to say anything to anyone, though.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Straying here, how about on tech or intentional foul, players need to be behind division line

I think a lot of this is what the players think they are supposed to do, not necessarily what they are told to do by the officials. I had an intentional foul last night and we sent players off the line, they all went to the division line on their own. The only time I might say anything to them at all is when they want to talk to the coach on the end where we are shooting the FTs as I would not like the to be in violation of where they stand and cause an unnecessary FT violation.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

The corollary to this: "Hold your spots" as the R enters the circle. I used to "help" my partners at half time by explaining the actual rule. No more.

Originally Posted by Rich

That annoys me too. Not enough to say anything to anyone, though.

Except that there is an element of truth to that one. It may not be precisely accurate but there are movements that are illegal.

[HokiePaul]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BayStateRef
The corollary to this: "Hold your spots" as the R enters the circle. I used to "help" my partners at half time by explaining the actual rule. No more.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich
That annoys me too. Not enough to say anything to anyone, though.

Except that there is an element of truth to that one. It may not be precisely accurate but there are movements that are illegal.

I remember our rules interpreter teaching jump ball administration. He taught us the rules (e.g. that "non-jumpers shall not move onto the center restraining circle" or "change position around the center restraining circle") but he also indicated that he had no problem with using "hold your spots" prior to the jump ball.

He considered it acceptable "preventative" officiating to avoid having to call a jump ball violation to start the game and to get the game underway without incident. If someone backs directly off of the restraining circle (legal), you just don't call a violation. Much like an official may verbally warn someone to "stay out of the lane" to avoid making a marginal call. Of course you don't have to "stay out of the lane" -- it's not technically correct. But it can be helpful at times.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

I remember our rules interpreter teaching jump ball administration. He taught us the rules (e.g. that "non-jumpers shall not move onto the center restraining circle" or "change position around the center restraining circle") but he also indicated that he had no problem with using "hold your spots" prior to the jump ball.

He considered it acceptable "preventative" officiating to avoid having to call a jump ball violation to start the game and to get the game underway without incident. If someone backs directly off of the restraining circle (legal), you just don't call a violation. Much like an official may verbally warn someone to "stay out of the lane" to avoid making a marginal call. Of course you don't have to "stay out of the lane" -- it's not technically correct. But it can be helpful at times.

I never say "stay out of the lane," and I'm surprised anyone does. I will say "get out," though.