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Wed Mar 06, 2013, 04:51pm
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Wow, 0 for 2, and these two plays were 30 seconds apart...
The second one the bump that draws the whistle sure looks to me like it is after the gather and during the habitual motion. The first one looks to be a pass all the way. 
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Wed Mar 06, 2013, 04:52pm
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I'm not even convinced either one is a foul.
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Wed Mar 06, 2013, 04:54pm
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Two IC's there
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