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Old Wed Mar 06, 2013, 04:52pm
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I'm not even convinced either one is a foul.
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Old Wed Mar 06, 2013, 04:54pm
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Old Wed Mar 06, 2013, 04:55pm
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I'm not even convinced either one is a foul.
Me either. The first could've been avoided entirely with a more patient whistle.
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Old Wed Mar 06, 2013, 05:54pm
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First, I believe I have no foul on either play... but that's not the question.

Second - play 1 was similar to the one we were discussing a few weeks ago... if the official felt she was shooting when he called the foul, the fact that she didn't shoot after the foul should be irrelevant --- that said, I think he missed it. But I can see why he did, at least.

Play 2 is harder to say. Since I see no foul anyway, I truly have no idea when (with his better angle than us) he saw the foul or even who he called it on. Based on the video alone, he appears to have called a defensive foul on the offensive player ... so who knows. If the foul was on the first defender and not at the very last instant, no shot. If the foul was on the 2nd, clearly she was shooting.
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Old Wed Mar 06, 2013, 06:27pm
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I don't think there is a foul on either of these plays.
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Old Wed Mar 06, 2013, 08:01pm
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If the foul was on the first defender and not at the very last instant, no shot. If the foul was on the 2nd, clearly she was shooting.
As was mentioned earlier, the foul was on #41 red (the inital defender).
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Old Wed Mar 06, 2013, 10:49pm
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I think they were 0 for 2!
What he said.
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Old Thu Mar 07, 2013, 07:23am
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In the first, I would expect a partner of the calling official to at least mention "Are you aware the ball was passed and not shot?".
Wondering when you would prefer your partner telling you this? Should the partner tell you right away before you report the foul ... or is it better to wait until the foul is reported and then approach your partner?
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Old Thu Mar 07, 2013, 08:20am
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Wondering when you would prefer your partner telling you this? Should the partner tell you right away before you report the foul ... or is it better to wait until the foul is reported and then approach your partner?
You catch your partner before he reports. You quietly and quickly provide the info and then you get out of his way and let him decide what to do.
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Old Thu Mar 07, 2013, 08:32am
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Wondering when you would prefer your partner telling you this? Should the partner tell you right away before you report the foul ... or is it better to wait until the foul is reported and then approach your partner?
Generally, as the partner is on the way to report. Thus, he/she can change the call if needed....basically what BNR just said.
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Old Thu Mar 07, 2013, 08:35am
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Wondering when you would prefer your partner telling you this? Should the partner tell you right away before you report the foul ... or is it better to wait until the foul is reported and then approach your partner?
As soon as the partner puts up (or doesn't, depending on the specific play) two fingers. It's part of the reason why the mechanics at the spot of the foul are important.
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