Continuous Motion...a continuation

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Scooby

The video does not show who the foul is on or an indication what the foul is. Without that information I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

The foul in play #2 was called on Red 41 (i.e., the defender who picked up A1 at midcourt).

Originally Posted by Rich

This comes back to something I posted on the other thread. Put it on the shot if you can rather than try to figure out a way to deny free throws. The timing of the whistle makes it very, very easy to put the player on the line.

See? I was reading your mind! I thought the same thing and I also had the same thought as BNR: You just gave my opponent an undeserved shooting foul at one end and now you're going to keep my kid from going to the line on that play?

[JRutledge]

I am not even sure the first play was a foul. No interruption in RSBQ or prevented from doing something with the ball. The Lead would have been better served if he got over to ball side. Way late in getting there and screened from the contact if there was any that warranted a foul.

The second one was a bad miss IMO.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

The foul in play #2 was called on Red 41 (i.e., the defender who picked up A1 at midcourt).

That makes it more reasonable. That player had plenty of opportunities to foul well before the shot. The camera angle doesn't really show if or how much contact there was along the way. It is possible that she bumped the dribbler enough to reroute her somewhat. So, I'll give the official the benefit of doubt on that one.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That makes is more reasonable. That player had plenty of opportunities to foul well before the shot. The camera angle doesn't really show if or how much contact there was along the way. It is possible that she bumped the dribbler enough to reroute her somewhat. So, I'll give the official the benefit of doubt on that one.

1# When not to rotate.....immediate shot, immediate pass, immediate drive to basket. Lead was bit late, probably should have stayed and left it for C or might have better angle from weak side. Thought it was a pass IMHO

#2, again as other thread, a patient whistle and it's called correctly.

[4-40]

So much for similar plays being called the same way on both ends of the court (similar in that each play involves a drive to the basket). These two plays happen within one minute of each other, and both calls go the red team's way.

[ballgame99]

Wow, 0 for 2, and these two plays were 30 seconds apart...

The second one the bump that draws the whistle sure looks to me like it is after the gather and during the habitual motion. The first one looks to be a pass all the way.

[bob jenkins]

I'm not even convinced either one is a foul.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I'm not even convinced either one is a foul.

Me either. The first could've been avoided entirely with a more patient whistle.

[APG]

Two IC's there

[Rich]

Just a reminder to everyone that creating a new user account can be frowned upon if the only reason to do so is to rip officials anonymously or to troll the board.

If you have a reason to change your username, please let me know so I don't falsely accuse you of doing what I mentioned above.

[MD Longhorn]

First, I believe I have no foul on either play... but that's not the question.

Second - play 1 was similar to the one we were discussing a few weeks ago... if the official felt she was shooting when he called the foul, the fact that she didn't shoot after the foul should be irrelevant --- that said, I think he missed it. But I can see why he did, at least.

Play 2 is harder to say. Since I see no foul anyway, I truly have no idea when (with his better angle than us) he saw the foul or even who he called it on. Based on the video alone, he appears to have called a defensive foul on the offensive player ... so who knows. If the foul was on the first defender and not at the very last instant, no shot. If the foul was on the 2nd, clearly she was shooting.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

If the foul was on the first defender and not at the very last instant, no shot. If the foul was on the 2nd, clearly she was shooting.

As was mentioned earlier, the foul was on #41 red (the inital defender).

[OKREF]

I don't think there is a foul on either of these plays.