Neither jumper jumps

[APG]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Jump again. Double T again if you have to. Is this T indirect to the coach? 3 of those, and we have new head coaches, right?

Nope no indirects

[johnny d]

After you get tired of throwing the ball without anyone jumping, just call a violation on one of the non-jumpers, award the other team the ball, and set the arrow that way. Even if you have to make up a violation it will work, the coaches dont have any idea what is or isnt a violation during the jump ball.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rich

Question asked by a local official:

Suppose neither jumper jumps during the opening toss. The NOTE after 6-3-8 says that the jumpers will be ordered to jump if neither do. Suppose neither jump after being ordered to do so. What recourse does the R have?

Apparently, this scenario is possible in a postseason game because one team cedes the tip and uses the jumper and another player to trap the person who actually gets the ball. The other team has decided to not jump in order to not play into that game...

Call 2 new players in for the face-off.

[Thumper68]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Call 2 new players in for the face-off.

This gets my vote!

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Call 2 new players in for the face-off.

Ensure you make the linesman ejection from the faceoff spot point, too.

I think a Double T on both jumpers would convince somebody to jump.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Ensure you make the linesman ejection from the faceoff spot point, too.

I think a Double T on both jumpers would convince somebody to jump.

And pi$$ off both coaches. You may even get to follow it with simultaneous Ts on both coaches. 2 team fouls each, no shots, rejump, and seatbelts for everyone.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Adam

And pi$$ off both coaches.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by Rich

Apparently, this scenario is possible in a postseason game because one team cedes the tip (Team A) and uses the jumper and another player to trap the person who actually gets the ball. The other team [b](Team B)[b] has decided to not jump in order to not play into that game...

Using my designations above...
Why wouldn't/couldn't Team B just have their jumper tip the ball to a Team A player to avoid "playing into that game"?

Not that we can tell the players what to do, of course...

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by Rich

Question asked by a local official:

Suppose neither jumper jumps during the opening toss. The NOTE after 6-3-8 says that the jumpers will be ordered to jump if neither do. Suppose neither jump after being ordered to do so. What recourse does the R have?

Apparently, this scenario is possible in a postseason game because one team cedes the tip and uses the jumper and another player to trap the person who actually gets the ball. The other team has decided to not jump in order to not play into that game...

Not understanding why "this scenario is possible in a postseason game", anymore so than any other game??

[Adam]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Not understanding why "this scenario is possible in a postseason game", anymore so than any other game??

Only because of the specifics of the two teams. Could have happened in the regular season, too, if the teams had played each other (and if the coach of the jumping team decided not to play.)

Personally, I like the coaching decision of having your jumper tip the ball directly to the opponent, or out of bounds, or just have him grab it.

Even better, if the jump is uncontested, that gives you more latitude to set up a play allowing you to tap it into your front court.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Adam

Even better, if the jump is uncontested, that gives you more latitude to set up a play allowing you to tap it into your front court.

Heck, have a player head toward your basket and hit it all the way down the court for an uncontested layup!

When I coached, we had a play where A1 taps it back to A2 on the cirlce, who immediately baseball throws it to a breaking A3 for a layup (ok, these kids were 13), but it worked almost every time we won the tap and took all of 5-6 secs.

[letemplay]

Still, if the whole point of the trap is to ultimately gain possesion of the ball, why not tell a non-jumper to wait until it hits one of the jumpers and then grab it (I'm guessing if both coaches have told their jumpers not to jump, the others are not in a hurry to do anything either) That's why I said earlier, if I see this once (tossed it and neither jumped) the retoss is going up and over on one of them and my U better not blow it back.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Still, if the whole point of the trap is to ultimately gain possesion of the ball, why not tell a non-jumper to wait until it hits one of the jumpers and then grab it (I'm guessing if both coaches have told their jumpers not to jump, the others are not in a hurry to do anything either) That's why I said earlier, if I see this once (tossed it and neither jumped) the retoss is going up and over on one of them and my U better not blow it back.

Because they want the ball AND the arrow.

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by Rich

Because they want the ball AND the arrow.

aha...yes I hear it's quite popular these days

[Mark Padgett]

I don't know if anyone else has implied or mentioned this, but what if you just throw it up, let it come down and hit the floor and then just stand there with your arms folded?

If no one picks the ball up, then lay down on the floor like you're taking a nap.