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Old Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:31pm
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There is no standard for rec leagues. Depending on where it is, who is involved, and the age of the participants, the acceptable conduct level may vary wildly, anything from equal to a normal high school varsity game to one with adult participants where players and officials exchange profanity. You just have to find out what is expected at your local league and if you are comfortable with it, do it.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:36pm
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There is no standard for rec leagues. Depending on where it is, who is involved, and the age of the participants, the acceptable conduct level may vary wildly, anything from equal to a normal high school varsity game to one with adult participants where players and officials exchange profanity.
D-1 college intramural, zero tolerance policy for profanity, and sportsmanship strongly encouraged. Close to a high school setting is the hope, with a few modifications forced.

In a scholastic game, I get the guy with the arm slap all the way down the floor.

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You just have to find out what is expected at your local league and if you are comfortable with it, do it.
The overall boss would whack him I'm sure and be fine with my call, I just couldn't believe my partners and the supervisor on duty (less experience than me) were so surprised that I didn't let it go and took exception to those 3 acts.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:39pm
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Honestly, I believe you are overthinking it. The 'T' is a tool to manage the game and your sanity. Use it when either are slipping away and move on.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:51pm
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In a scholastic game, I get the guy with the arm slap all the way down the floor.
For the record, I wouldn't approach these games with more tolerance than you have in a scholastic game. I don't need the grief, to be honest, and if the league wants sportsmanship to be emphasized, then they'll support your T.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:57pm
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For the record, I wouldn't approach these games with more tolerance than you have in a scholastic game. I don't need the grief, to be honest, and if the league wants sportsmanship to be emphasized, then they'll support your T.
My idea was that in a scholastic game there is near zero tolerance for bench personnel negative reactions in response to calls. Here, the player who got whacked was the captain or de facto coach which is what got him as much rope as he had. But then at the same time, the team leader should set the example, and that certainly wasn't a good one.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:00pm
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My idea was that in a scholastic game there is near zero tolerance for bench personnel negative reactions in response to calls. Here, the player who got whacked was the captain or de facto coach which is what got him as much rope as he had. But then at the same time, the team leader should set the example, and that certainly wasn't a good one.
Fair enough. My thinking is, first of all, he's a player. Players don't get to pull the ballerina act and show me up all the way up and down the court.

Second, even if he's on the bench acting as the coach, I'm not letting a scholastic coach act like you describe either. The foot stomp may have gotten a T from me, but when he continued to bark at the calling official, he earned himself the T (and if you're using high school rules, I'd enforce the seatbelt on Mr. Playercoach).
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:25pm
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And people wonder why we don't want to work these games for the peanuts that they offer. A$$hats like this are the reason. The less I'm getting paid, the lower my tolerance level is.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:33pm
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And people wonder why we don't want to work these games for the peanuts that they offer. A$$hats like this are the reason. The less I'm getting paid, the lower my tolerance level is.
For various reasons I actually enjoy these games most of the time and believe that, to this point, they have been beneficial (at least to me).
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Old Tue Feb 19, 2013, 01:06pm
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My idea was that in a scholastic game there is near zero tolerance for bench personnel negative reactions in response to calls.
True.

And there should be even less tolerance (Less Than Zero?) in a Wreck game.
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Old Mon Feb 18, 2013, 06:23pm
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D-1 college intramural, zero tolerance policy for profanity, and sportsmanship strongly encouraged. Close to a high school setting is the hope, with a few modifications forced.

In a scholastic game, I get the guy with the arm slap all the way down the floor.



The overall boss would whack him I'm sure and be fine with my call, I just couldn't believe my partners and the supervisor on duty (less experience than me) were so surprised that I didn't let it go and took exception to those 3 acts.
I got my start in a similar intramural situation, and I really enjoyed it, and I miss it. It is much more organized than most rec leagues. I called several T's during my time there because my partners didn't, but only when, like in your situation, I gave my partners an opportunity to take care of business and that player was way over the line. Also, in my situation, my supervisors would have been pissed if we wouldn't have gotten the T, and certainly not surprised if we did pick it up.
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