Men's wreck league game situation

[DLH17]

A1 dribbles the ball from the top of the key towards the FT line where B1 and B2 are standing "foot to foot". A1 continues dribble driving between B1 and B2. Of course, contact results from A1 initiating contact - he loses balance and falls to the ground. I am trail and partner is lead. Partner hits whistle first and immediately signals "blocking".

According to Fed rule book, contact in that situation is a PCF on A1.

10.6.7 SITUATION:

During congested play in the free-throw semicircle, B1 and B2 are less than 3 feet apart when dribbler A1 fakes to one side and then causes *contact in attempting to dribble between them.

RULING: Unless one of the *defensive players is faked out of position to permit adequate space for the *dribbler to go between without making contact, it is a player-control foul on A1.

Thoughts, comments? Anyone else see this type of situation from time to time at higher level of play? I haven't seen it in varsity action, but I have seen it a couple of times in wreck play and some elementary aged league games. Yet, I've never had PCF. Perhaps I should next time.

[johnny d]

doesnt sound like defensive players were dislodged or affected in any way, therefore i am going with a no-call and then probably T-ing the dribbler when starts running his mouth as is likely to occur in mens league.

[Adam]

I see this in HS boys ball all the time. I generally no-call this unless B somehow initiates contact by sticking out a knee or hip.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by adam

i see this in hs boys ball all the time. I generally no-call this unless b somehow initiates contact by sticking out a knee or hip.

+1

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Adam

I see this in HS boys ball all the time. I generally no-call this unless B somehow initiates contact by sticking out a knee or hip.

Agreed. I don't give the dribbler much help when he's trying to split a double team.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Agreed. I don't give the dribbler much help when he's trying to split a double team.

Agree.

Although, I know too many officials, unfortunately that will call that a block. Their reasoning? The defender didn't take it in the chest therefore they committed a block. It isn't right, but that is what they call it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by DLH17

A1 dribbles the ball from the top of the key towards the FT line where B1 and B2 are standing "foot to foot". A1 continues dribble driving between B1 and B2. Of course, contact results from A1 initiating contact - he loses balance and falls to the ground. I am trail and partner is lead. Partner hits whistle first and immediately signals "blocking".

According to Fed rule book, contact in that situation is a PCF on A1.

10.6.7 SITUATION:

During congested play in the free-throw semicircle, B1 and B2 are less than 3 feet apart when dribbler A1 fakes to one side and then causes *contact in attempting to dribble between them.

RULING: Unless one of the *defensive players is faked out of position to permit adequate space for the *dribbler to go between without making contact, it is a player-control foul on A1.

Thoughts, comments? Anyone else see this type of situation from time to time at higher level of play? I haven't seen it in varsity action, but I have seen it a couple of times in wreck play and some elementary aged league games. Yet, I've never had PCF. Perhaps I should next time.

I usually end up having a travel or some other type of turnover. Had a player try it last night going to the basket and ended with a ugly looking held ball.

[twocentsworth]

Simply ask yourself...."who is responsible for the contact?". In this case, it is the offensive player. If he does not displace the defenders - no call. If displacement occurs - offensive foul.

I used to be one who would call a blocking foul, but I have since learned how to call this correctly.