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[OKREF]

He said during a high school game. Be calls some D 2 & 3.

[tjones1]

Most assigners I deal with say their biggest problem is dealing with things officials say to coaches. Therefore, most assigners will tell you: "you can't quote silence."

[Brad]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Most assigners I deal with say their biggest problem is dealing with things officials say to coaches.

This is 100% accurate. I've seen SO many reports from coaches (that are submitted through our software) ... it's always about something the official said, his attitude, or something along those lines.

Do coaches get upset about calls? Sure... but they get much more bothered by the perceived attitude of officials. A lot of times what comes out of our mouths doesn't help matters!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Brad

This is 100% accurate. I've seen SO many reports from coaches (that are submitted through our software) ... it's always about something the official said, his attitude, or something along those lines.

Do coaches get upset about calls? Sure... but they get much more bothered by the perceived attitude of officials. A lot of times what comes out of our mouths doesn't help matters!

Coaches think we are at their beck and call for all kinds of things and if we do not stop everything to talk to them then we are bad officials. I put little stock in what reports say when often coaches have unreasonable positions about what officials are supposed to do for them. Thank God I work for a lot of people that seem to understand that fact and pretty much know who their coaches are and deal with them appropriately. A lot of times if there is a problem, we hear nothing about it from our supervisors.

Peace

[Brad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Coaches think we are at their beck and call for all kinds of things and if we do not stop everything to talk to them then we are bad officials. I put little stock in what reports say when often coaches have unreasonable positions about what officials are supposed to do for them. Thank God I work for a lot of people that seem to understand that fact and pretty much know who their coaches are and deal with them appropriately. A lot of times if there is a problem, we hear nothing about it from our supervisors.

Peace

Rut, if you are as diplomatic on the court as you are on the forum, we all know you don't have any problems!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Brad

Rut, if you are as diplomatic on the court as you are on the forum, we all know you don't have any problems!

I am not in this business to be liked. And being liked does not help you get games or opportunities either. The powers that be want people that do the job, do not try to appease everyone in the process.

Peace

[Brad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am not in this business to be liked.

Oh, we know!!!

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by OKREF

He said during a high school game. Be calls some D 2 & 3.

Totally off the subject, but someone once told me this and I agree: an official is whatever he/she does the most of. If the official you are referring to does mostly high school basketball...he is a high school ref.

This may be just the officials I have dealt with, but it cracks me up when someone has 5 college games and says something like, "You may have to help me with an interpretation if I try to use a college rule". Really?

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Totally off the subject, but someone once told me this and I agree: an official is whatever he/she does the most of. If the official you are referring to does mostly high school basketball...he is a high school ref.

This may be just the officials I have dealt with, but it cracks me up when someone has 5 college games and says something like, "You may have to help me with an interpretation if I try to use a college rule". Really?

I don't understand that either. Work two rule sets... know two rule sets. Simple enough.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Totally off the subject, but someone once told me this and I agree: an official is whatever he/she does the most of. If the official you are referring to does mostly high school basketball...he is a high school ref.

This may be just the officials I have dealt with, but it cracks me up when someone has 5 college games and says something like, "You may have to help me with an interpretation if I try to use a college rule". Really?

Love the humble brag.

[Tio]

Yes, as an official you are responsible for knowing the gym (and rules) you are in that night. I never bring up my schedule because nothing good can come of it. When you work a HS game, you are a HS ref. When you work a NCAA game, you are an NCAA ref.

Originally Posted by Adam

Love the humble brag.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Tio

When you work a HS game, you are a HS ref. When you work a NCAA game, you are an NCAA ref.

... and when I work a Catholic middle school game, I'm a ... Heh? Wait a minute?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Totally off the subject, but someone once told me this and I agree: an official is whatever he/she does the most of. If the official you are referring to does mostly high school basketball...he is a high school ref.

This may be just the officials I have dealt with, but it cracks me up when someone has 5 college games and says something like, "You may have to help me with an interpretation if I try to use a college rule". Really?

In my experience it is more about if you are on a staff or if you were hired to work conference games than if you work more. At least around here that can be exposed very easily when someone starts talking like they work "college" and no one knows them or has worked with them. Kind of a closed community much more than on the high school side.

And honestly I call the game the same at least when it comes to judgments. The rules are very easy to know IMO too at the college level.

Peace

[Brad]

Originally Posted by tomegun

This may be just the officials I have dealt with, but it cracks me up when someone has 5 college games and says something like, "You may have to help me with an interpretation if I try to use a college rule". Really?

My favorite pre-game brag was the following:

Was working at Sam Houston and the R on the crew said something to the effect of, "You'll have to excuse me guys if my stuff is a little stinky — been on the road for 3-4 days."

The official then went on to detail which games he had just worked — big schools!

I guess he didn't realize it at the time, but those conferences used BlueZebra Sports for their assigning. Did a quick search on him when I got home.

He did not work any of those games.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Brad

My favorite pre-game brag was the following:

Was working at Sam Houston and the R on the crew said something to the effect of, "You'll have to excuse me guys if my stuff is a little stinky — been on the road for 3-4 days."

The official then went on to detail which games he had just worked — big schools!

I guess he didn't realize it at the time, but those conferences used BlueZebra Sports for their assigning. Did a quick search on him when I got home.

He did not work any of those games.

Busted.