UConn vs Marquette Fiasco (Letter to John Adams and Coordinators)

[Smitty]

I am wondering if the OP might, just might be from Connecticut or affiliated with UConn. The letter reeks of bias and will likely be given as much weight if and when it is read by anyone on the receiving end.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I am wondering if the OP might, just might be from Connecticut or affiliated with UConn. The letter reeks of bias and will likely be given as much weight if and when it is read by anyone on the receiving end.

I think you're on to something...

Additionally, disallowing the basket may have cost UConn the game

[Rich]

It's a bit early for the fanboys to be coming out of the woodwork.

Or did I miss January and February entirely?

[DLH17]

Before "we" flog the officials for "taking 2 points away from" and "possibly losing the game for" UConn, maybe we should evaluate every single one of Calhoun's in game mistakes and all of his player's mistakes - you know, stuff like subbing incorrectly, leaving a player in too long, not calling a timeout when really needed, missed layups, shooting the ball too early in the play clock, taking a bad foul.

Wait, none of those things directly affect the outcome of the game.

Only officials can do that. LOL.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by DLH17

Maybe we should evaluate every single one of Calhoun's in game mistakes - you know, stuff like subbing incorrectly, leaving a player in too long, not calling a timeout when really needed.

Jim Calhoun is in his Lazy Boy recliner, not subbing, and not requesting timeouts. He retired back in the fall. Kevin Ollie is now the head coach, originally he got a one year "tryout" contract, but now he has signed a long term contract. There's certainly a lot less swearing from the bench with Ollie coaching.

[DevonMoore]

Again, some of you are more concerned about me and my intentions without regard to the CONTENT of the letter. My affiliation or intent is not the issue here. Supportive of the officials you suggest? Misapplication of rules by three FF officials is UNACCEPTABLE! How can you be supportive of that?

Instead of coming at me, I have yet to read one response that justifies their actions. Where's the accountability? You never know if this ONE game costs Uconn its place in the BE tourney or selection committee seeding...one never knows the IMPACT of our mistakes as officials.

Yes I beleive some work too much; how can they concentrate and maintain their intensity night in and night out? It is too hard.

It was not a simple error...as in judgement. It was a MISSED APPLIED RULE by 3 guys who are supposed to be the best. Karl Hess can't tell me anything at a future camp since he can't even line players up correctly and doesn't know the third article of rule 5. Has he even read the rule book? But hey, ALL of them are equally at fault. It was a TRAVESTY...ask UConn if THEY feel that way.

Regarding death sentence: most everyone on here does not use his/her real name because you really cannot say what you want without fear of retailiation in some form or fashion. Period.

[OKREF]

Stupid players, don't even know which direction they are supposed to go. Coaches didn't catch it either. Take the scholarships away from the players and fire all the coaches.

[DevonMoore]

Even though they went the wrong way, is it the players' and coaches' fault that the goaltending call did not count and that the officials went to the AP arrow in error too?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by DevonMoore

You never know if this ONE game costs Uconn its place in the BE tourney or selection committee seeding.

Well, we probably know for sure that DevonMoore is not from the Constitution State, nor is he, or she, a true University of Connecticut fan.

Jim Calhoun hasn't been coaching the University of Connecticut mens team since September, 2012. Due to academic issues, like the players not going to classes, and players leaving school early for the NBA while in poor academic standing, the UCONN men are not eligible for the NCAA tournament. They may have one appeal left, but I'm 99% sure that they will not be eligible for the Big East (or whatever is left of the Big East) tournament at the end of this season.

[rockchalk jhawk]

Originally Posted by DevonMoore

Again, some of you are more concerned about me and my intentions without regard to the CONTENT of the letter. My affiliation or intent is not the issue here. Supportive of the officials you suggest? Misapplication of rules by three FF officials is UNACCEPTABLE! How can you be supportive of that?

Instead of coming at me, I have yet to read one response that justifies their actions. Where's the accountability? You never know if this ONE game costs Uconn its place in the BE tourney or selection committee seeding...one never knows the IMPACT of our mistakes as officials.

Yes I beleive some work too much; how can they concentrate and maintain their intensity night in and night out? It is too hard.

It was not a simple error...as in judgement. It was a MISSED APPLIED RULE by 3 guys who are supposed to be the best. Karl Hess can't tell me anything at a future camp since he can't even line players up correctly and doesn't know the third article of rule 5. Has he even read the rule book? But hey, ALL of them are equally at fault. It was a TRAVESTY...ask UConn if THEY feel that way.

Regarding death sentence: most everyone on here does not use his/her real name because you really cannot say what you want without fear of retailiation in some form or fashion. Period.

1. The point that everybody is trying to make here is that mistakes are made. It happens every game. Some mistakes (such as this one) are very high profile, but they happen to all of us. Was this unfortunate? Yes. Was it the sole reason that UCONN lost the game? No. Should we all (including these three) know the rules better? Absolutely. You won't find anybody defending these three guys because what happened was indefensible and we all know it.

2. You're not getting the reaction that you want because despite to the fact that you infer that you might referee some level of basketball somewhere in the world and claim to be a long time reader of this forum, you're posting as a fanboy with your fanboy hat and your UCONN gear on. Your post reeks of fanboy-dom as others have pointed out and you're being treated like any other fanboy that starts posting this time of year.

3. This is not a place to come and cry about the officiating of any particular game. This is a place for objective rules discussion and there is currently another very good thread on the topic. This thread is your attempt to stir up a mob mentality lynching and you're (not surprisingly) getting anybody riled up. Go post on a fanboy site.

4. If you're writing a letter, I hope you're sending it to the Big East commissioner, not John Adams. As has been pointed out he has absolutely zero control over who works regular season games and has no ability to deal out the punishment to officials who do screw up (which is what you seem to so desperately seek).

TL;DR - go post on a fanboy site if you want a sympathetic ear.

[Tio]

The reason you need to post under an alias is that you and everyone else on this board have no right to question or challenge the competence of the 3 officials on last night's game. Yes, they made an indefensible mistake, but hopefully, we can all learn from this and apply to our games in the future. Calling for a fellow officials punishment (and thinking you are right in writing to John Adams and conference coordinators) is an act of insanity. If you don't believe me, feel free to email it to John Adams. He usually responds to all emails he receives.

Originally Posted by DevonMoore

Again, some of you are more concerned about me and my intentions without regard to the CONTENT of the letter. My affiliation or intent is not the issue here. Supportive of the officials you suggest? Misapplication of rules by three FF officials is UNACCEPTABLE! How can you be supportive of that?

Instead of coming at me, I have yet to read one response that justifies their actions. Where's the accountability? You never know if this ONE game costs Uconn its place in the BE tourney or selection committee seeding...one never knows the IMPACT of our mistakes as officials.

Yes I beleive some work too much; how can they concentrate and maintain their intensity night in and night out? It is too hard.

It was not a simple error...as in judgement. It was a MISSED APPLIED RULE by 3 guys who are supposed to be the best. Karl Hess can't tell me anything at a future camp since he can't even line players up correctly and doesn't know the third article of rule 5. Has he even read the rule book? But hey, ALL of them are equally at fault. It was a TRAVESTY...ask UConn if THEY feel that way.

Regarding death sentence: most everyone on here does not use his/her real name because you really cannot say what you want without fear of retailiation in some form or fashion. Period.

[DevonMoore]

LOL...I did email adams and hyland and clougherty and shaw (FYI): jwasports1, user2117, etc.

I am not a fanboy, and it matters not the reaction you all send my way. Each of you are anonymous as well, so what difference does it matter...just as you pay no attention to my post.

But yes, I opted to post today because I am sick and tired of BIG TIME officials f%%4ing stuff up and continue to get games with no penalty at all...living off reputation versus ability. Their arrogance is demonstrated on the floor by their mannerisms.

Again, you all focus on me...but I did not misapply the rule, because I KNOW the rule.

So continue to throw darts at me for voicing my opinion...but I have yet to hear ONE person defend their actions and provide a reasonable excuse. Guess what, there is NOT an excuse! Yeah...they will be on TV again this weekend and work the NCAA tourney, but do not know the freakin rules!

I guess it is WHO you know and not WHAT you know...

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by Tio

The reason you need to post under an alias is that you and everyone else on this board have no right to question or challenge the competence of the 3 officials on last night's game. Yes, they made an indefensible mistake, but hopefully, we can all learn from this and apply to our games in the future. Calling for a fellow officials punishment (and thinking you are right in writing to John Adams and conference coordinators) is an act of insanity. If you don't believe me, feel free to email it to John Adams. He usually responds to all emails he receives.

Copy Art Hyland the Coordinator of Men's Basketball Officials for the Big East Conference on your e-mail to John Adams.......I'm sure he'd appreciate your insights regarding his officials.

Really, you've got to lighten up. Do actually think that these three officials haven't already heard from Hyland about this? The coordinator gets a DVD of every conference game, the officials each get one upon the completion of the game.

You mentioned in an earlier post...."Karl Hess can't teach me anything at a future camp....."
If you've attended or are thinking about attending an NCAA 'observation' camp, to get into or move up in college basketball officiating, you might want to rethink your career advancement strategy.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by DevonMoore

Again, some of you are more concerned about me and my intentions without regard to the CONTENT of the letter. My affiliation or intent is not the issue here. Supportive of the officials you suggest? Misapplication of rules by three FF officials is UNACCEPTABLE! How can you be supportive of that?

Instead of coming at me, I have yet to read one response that justifies their actions. Where's the accountability? You never know if this ONE game costs Uconn its place in the BE tourney or selection committee seeding...one never knows the IMPACT of our mistakes as officials.

Yes I beleive some work too much; how can they concentrate and maintain their intensity night in and night out? It is too hard.

It was not a simple error...as in judgement. It was a MISSED APPLIED RULE by 3 guys who are supposed to be the best. Karl Hess can't tell me anything at a future camp since he can't even line players up correctly and doesn't know the third article of rule 5. Has he even read the rule book? But hey, ALL of them are equally at fault. It was a TRAVESTY...ask UConn if THEY feel that way.

Regarding death sentence: most everyone on here does not use his/her real name because you really cannot say what you want without fear of retailiation in some form or fashion. Period.

I don't "support" mistakes, big boy. But, I DO support hard working officials that happen to make mistakes here and there. Mistakes happen all the time. It's the nature of the business. Get over it, coach, and move on. There is a ton of basketball left to be played.

[TonyT]

Originally Posted by DevonMoore

Again, some of you are more concerned about me and my intentions without regard to the CONTENT of the letter. My affiliation or intent is not the issue here. Supportive of the officials you suggest? Misapplication of rules by three FF officials is UNACCEPTABLE! How can you be supportive of that?

Instead of coming at me, I have yet to read one response that justifies their actions. Where's the accountability? You never know if this ONE game costs Uconn its place in the BE tourney or selection committee seeding...one never knows the IMPACT of our mistakes as officials.

Yes I beleive some work too much; how can they concentrate and maintain their intensity night in and night out? It is too hard.

It was not a simple error...as in judgement. It was a MISSED APPLIED RULE by 3 guys who are supposed to be the best. Karl Hess can't tell me anything at a future camp since he can't even line players up correctly and doesn't know the third article of rule 5. Has he even read the rule book? But hey, ALL of them are equally at fault. It was a TRAVESTY...ask UConn if THEY feel that way.

Regarding death sentence: most everyone on here does not use his/her real name because you really cannot say what you want without fear of retailiation in some form or fashion. Period.

I agree with you Devon, They are more concerned with attacking you than addressing the real problem. But that it what officials do. They never make a mistake it is always someone elses fault.