Help a rookie out.

[jeremy341a]

In all instances both teams have 7 team fouls.

1. A1 while dribbling in the backcourt dribbles the ball off his own foot. While chasing down the ball A1 shoves B1. There are no free throws awarded as team A still has team control.

2. A1 while dribbling in the backcourt dribbles the ball off his own foot. While chasing down the ball B1 shoves A1. A1 is awarded bonus freethrows.

3. A1 attempts a shot and on the rebound A2 fouls B1. B1 is awarded bonus freethrows due to neither team having team control.

Am I correct?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

In all instances both teams have 7 team fouls.

1. A1 while dribbling in the backcourt dribbles the ball off his own foot. While chasing down the ball A1 shoves B1. There are no free throws awarded as team A still has team control.

True. TC Foul on A1.

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

2. A1 while dribbling in the backcourt dribbles the ball off his own foot. While chasing down the ball B1 shoves A1. A1 is awarded bonus freethrows.

Yes, foul on B and in the bonus.

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

3. A1 attempts a shot and on the rebound A2 fouls B1. B1 is awarded bonus freethrows due to neither team having team control.

Am I correct?

No TC on a try until possession. So yes you are correct on all of these.

Peace

[JRutledge]

BTW, Welcome to the forum.

Peace

[jeremy341a]

Thanks. Long time reader first time poster. I called my first "official" game the other night and my "senior partner" would not allow me to award bonus freethrows on the #3 the rebounding foul bc he said there was no team control. I thought I knew what I was talking about but he got me second guessing myself.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

Thanks. Long time reader first time poster. I called my first "official" game the other night and my "senior partner" would not allow me to award bonus freethrows on the #3 the rebounding foul bc he said there was no team control. I thought I knew what I was talking about but he got me second guessing myself.

Well that is what experience will do for you. And the more and more you work, the more and more confident you will get over what should be done. It is common to doubt yourself early on with rules you have not applied that much in your career.

Peace

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

Thanks. Long time reader first time poster. I called my first "official" game the other night and my "senior partner" would not allow me to award bonus freethrows on the #3 the rebounding foul bc he said there was no team control. I thought I knew what I was talking about but he got me second guessing myself.

That's exactly why you WOULD shoot the bonus free throws...sounds like your senior partner was confused.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

That's exactly why you WOULD shoot the bonus free throws...sounds like your senior partner was confused.

He could have had a brain fart. I had the same last year on a loose ball and signaled that we had bonus FTs to shoot. Then a partner came to me and reminded me the situation and saved the crew and me. It happens sometimes in unusual situations sometimes.

Peace

[jritchie]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

In all instances both teams have 7 team fouls.

1. A1 while dribbling in the backcourt dribbles the ball off his own foot. While chasing down the ball A1 shoves B1. There are no free throws awarded as team A still has team control.

2. A1 while dribbling in the backcourt dribbles the ball off his own foot. While chasing down the ball B1 shoves A1. A1 is awarded bonus freethrows.

3. A1 attempts a shot and on the rebound A2 fouls B1. B1 is awarded bonus freethrows due to neither team having team control.

Am I correct?

In 1 and 2, the shove could also be an intentional or flagrant foul, then you would have 2 free throws and a possible ejection if flagrant.

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by jritchie

In 1 and 2, the shove could also be an intentional or flagrant foul, then you would have 2 free throws and a possible ejection if flagrant.

Yeah I worded that poorly. I should have used another term to mean a common foul. Guess that's why I teach Math and not English.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by jritchie

In 1 and 2, the shove could also be an intentional or flagrant foul, then you would have 2 free throws and a possible ejection if flagrant.

Why?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Why?

Why not?

[tref]

I appreciated jritchie take on this, the push/shove could be so egregious that we have no choice but to upgrade from a common personal to an intentional/flagrant personal.

Coach: But it was a loose ball

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Adam

Why not?

When it comes to intentional/flagrant, I want to have a reason TO call it, not look for a reason not to call it.

As described, it didn't sound at all intentional or flagrant. Why should I go looking for a reason to make it one.

Two guys going for a lose ball and one knocks the other over on the way to the ball....common foul to me.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

When it comes to intentional/flagrant, I want to have a reason TO call it, not look for a reason not to call it.

As described, it didn't sound at all intentional or flagrant. Why should I go looking for a reason to make it one.

Two guys going for a lose ball and one knocks the other over on the way to the ball....common foul to me.

I agree, I don't go looking to call intentional or flagrant fouls. They're typically pretty obvious when they happen. But using the word "shove" means at least the intentional could logically be considered for discussion.