3 Man PCA Question

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Freddy

NevRef gets my vote for the best, most reasonable, clearest answer to the 3-(hu)man newbie question. Rut's response, to which NR refers in his post, is either a close second or good enough for a tie.
Thanx, guys! Well stated. Credit will be given when quoted.

(Just Another Ref - - might wanna shrink that overlap in your pregame crew conference.)

You mean he should tighten his belt?

[just another ref]

Pregame what?

[just another ref]

My point about overlap is not to let concern about the exact edges of the primary overshadow the necessity to step in and make a call. Spoken from experience.

[rockyroad]

And those PCA's are really for on-ball coverage. I always tell my partners that if they see something off-ball that needs to be called, go get it - who cares about imaginary lines when there is crap that needs to be cleaned up.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

And those PCA's are really for on-ball coverage. I always tell my partners that if they see something off-ball that needs to be called, go get it - who cares about imaginary lines when there is crap that needs to be cleaned up.

A. Those PCA's are for off-ball coverage as well (see C. below)

B. That "something off-ball that needs to be called" doesn't need someone to "go and get it" when, it's right there in a partner's PCA. Of course, wider court awareness will, hopefully, catch any of those "crew saver" calls that have to be made, as infrequent as they are

C. There always seems be a lot less "crap that needs to be cleaned up" when off-ball surveillance is good and off-ball fouls are called when they occur

D. "Imaginary lines"? They seem pretty definitive to me. Though for sure, if it needs to be called and it's "over your PCA line", I trust you're gonna get it. That's just good crew cohesiveness.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Freddy

A. Those PCA's are for off-ball coverage as well (see C. below)

B. That "something off-ball that needs to be called" doesn't need someone to "go and get it" when, it's right there in a partner's PCA. Of course, wider court awareness will, hopefully, catch any of those "crew saver" calls that have to be made, as infrequent as they are

C. There always seems be a lot less "crap that needs to be cleaned up" when off-ball surveillance is good and off-ball fouls are called when they occur

D. "Imaginary lines"? They seem pretty definitive to me. Though for sure, if it needs to be called and it's "over your PCA line", I trust you're gonna get it. That's just good crew cohesiveness.

The PCA is still mostly for on ball situations. If there are no competitive matchups in your primary, you can go outside to help or assist in plays and often have to go outside to get those kinds of situations called. The on-ball official often is not going to see screens or rebounding situations the way the other two officials have the potential to do. Heck the C in many situations calls things that is not in their coverage area. And if they only define their calls to what is in their primary then we will miss a lot of stuff as a crew in a particular game.

Peace

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The PCA is still mostly for on ball situations. If there are no competitive matchups in your primary, you can go outside to help or assist in plays and often have to go outside to get those kinds of situations called. The on-ball official often is not going to see screens or rebounding situations the way the other two officials have the potential to do. Heck the C in many situations calls things that is not in their coverage area. And if they only define their calls to what is in their primary then we will miss a lot of stuff as a crew in a particular game. Peace

Well stated, my friend across the big pond!
I guess what I'm sensitive about is this tendancy I've observed, which I may have mentioned before: the pregame advice "Everyone call what's in your primary", though understood properly, means to some that they're gonna ball-watch all over the court, just not make a call they see in a partner's primary. No off-ball coverage is accomplished and shenanigans (sp?) off-ball get out of hand and pretty soon there's all kindsa "crap" to have to clean up.
To counter that, we're continuing to ask the pregame question, "How will we know you're turning off-ball when the ball passes out of your primary?" This, intending to give emphasis to off-ball surveillance, includes what Rut says and the aforementioned "crew-saver" concern states previously.
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