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Old Fri Jun 22, 2012, 05:36am
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NFHS: Setting the Possession Arrow

At the jump ball to start the game, and after the initial tap JUMPER B1 catches the ball before it touches the floor or another player. Whistle...violation on Team B.
The ball is given to team A for the throw in and after player A1 touches the ball in bounds the table sets the posession arrow towards team B's basket.
Was this correct?
I thought that this would have been in the case book but I can't find anything. Can anyone help out on this play? A rule/case book reference would be appreciated.
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Old Fri Jun 22, 2012, 05:49am
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No case play but rule 4-3-3a is worded pretty clearly as to when you set the initial arrow following a jump ball violation.
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Old Fri Jun 22, 2012, 06:27am
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At the jump ball to start the game, and after the initial tap JUMPER B1 catches the ball before it touches the floor or another player. Whistle...violation on Team B. The ball is given to team A for the throw in and after player A1 touches the ball in bounds the table sets the possession arrow towards team B's basket.
Sounds good to me.

This interpretation changed several years ago. Back when the possession arrow was first introduced, such a violation would have given the ball, and the arrow, to Team A, but now that's ancient history. I'm sure that Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. will be moseying along shortly to confirm my statement.

Edmund Burke said, “Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it”, but he, obviously, wasn't a basketball official.
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Old Fri Jun 22, 2012, 08:01am
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Sounds good to me.

This interpretation changed several years ago. Back when the possession arrow was first introduced, such a violation would have given the ball, and the arrow, to Team A, but now that's ancient history. I'm sure that Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. will be moseying along shortly to confirm my statement.

Edmund Burke said, “Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it”, but he, obviously, wasn't a basketball official.
I think his question is in regards to when the arrow gets set.
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Old Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:41am
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I think his question is in regards to when the arrow gets set.
...which means the arrow is set when the ball is at the disposal of Team A for the throw-in, not after a player from Team A touches the ball inbounds.
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Old Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:02am
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...which means the arrow is set when the ball is at the disposal of Team A for the throw-in, not after a player from Team A touches the ball inbounds.
because the throw-in is for the violation...it is NOT an AP throw-in.
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Old Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:05am
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because the throw-in is for the violation...it is NOT an AP throw-in.
True...this is all for purposes of establishing the arrow.
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because the throw-in is for the violation...it is NOT an AP throw-in.
Good point... because if A violates on the throw-in, it would become B's throw-in and B would retain the arrow -- a situation that many HS timers would probably be unfamiliar with and might screw up.
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