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Old Tue Jun 26, 2012, 05:09pm
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef View Post
With all due respect, I don't care what the NCAA rule was in 1994, nor does it have anything to do with the NFHS. Prior to 2002, if a jumper caught the toss, he violated, the opponent got the ball and the AP arrow was pointed toward their basket.

If you have PROOF that this is incorrect, please post the rule and/or case play, not your opinion.


Tony:

First: The only personal opinion that I have given was with regard to the NFHS Rules Committee lack of due diligence.

Second, Part A: Go back and read my two posts. Prior to the early 2000's the NFHS and NCAA Rules Committees used Casebook Play/Approved Rulings to define how to handle this play.

Second, Part B: Initially, the Ruling was that A1 simultaneously established Player Control/Team Control and committed a Jump Ball violation. Then, in 1993-94 the NCAA changed it ruling to state that A1 could not simultaneously establish Player Control/Team Control and commit a Jump Ball violation, rather, A1 could only committ a Jump Ball violation. The NFHS changed its Ruling to the NCAA's ruling the following year.

Second, Part C: When the NCAA changed its Ruling in 1993-94 the Ruling stated that the AP Arrow would be set toward Team A's Basket when Team B's Throw-in for the A1's Jump Ball violation when Team B's Throw-in ended. Of course this was in conflict with NCAA Rules which require the AP Arrow to be set when the ball is placed at the Disposal of Team B for its Throw-in. (Remember this ruling when reading the 2002-03 NFHS Casebook Play 4-12-1 SITUATION which was in direct conflict both the rules and the NFHS Casebook Play in Rule 6 which had been in the NFHS Casebook since 1994-95; the 2002-03 Casebook Play 4-12-1 SITUATION was only published that one year and then quietly removed because in was in conflict with the Casebook Play in Rule 6. This was the part where I opined about the lack of due diligence by the NFHS Rules Committee.)

Second, Part D: With regard to the Play being discussed in the Thread the NFHS rules changes made in the early 2000's only codified the Rulng in the Casebook Play in Rule 6 which had been in effect for almost ten years.

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