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Old Thu Apr 12, 2012, 10:42pm
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Back court heat bulls game

Couldn't be more obvious. Turiaf on heat recovers, fumbles, steps in back court.....no call. I'm sure they have reason for non call, but I sit there yelling at the TV not caring who the call favors but the failure to apply the rules. I truly have no idea what they see/don't see in the NBE.
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Old Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:25pm
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First, if you gave us the approximate time in which this play occurred, that'd be great. Second, there isn't enough information in your description, to say whether a call was missed or not.
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Old Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:11am
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Couldn't be more obvious. Turiaf on heat recovers, fumbles, steps in back court.....no call. I'm sure they have reason for non call, but I sit there yelling at the TV not caring who the call favors but the failure to apply the rules. I truly have no idea what they see/don't see in the NBE.
I agree it was pretty blatant. It was in 1st half, probably 2nd quarter, but that's all I can remember about the timing of the play though.
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Old Fri Apr 13, 2012, 07:50am
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...I truly have no idea what they see/don't see in the NBE.
Don't we have plenty of questionable calls in the NCAA tournament every year? Do you say "I truly have no idea what they see/don't see in the NCAA tournament"?
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Old Fri Apr 13, 2012, 08:29am
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Don't we have plenty of questionable calls in the NCAA tournament every year? Do you say "I truly have no idea what they see/don't see in the NCAA tournament"?
No I don't. I was speaking metaphorically. It's more of indictment of the philosophy of calls in the NBE
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Old Fri Apr 13, 2012, 08:34am
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First, if you gave us the approximate time in which this play occurred, that'd be great. Second, there isn't enough information in your description, to say whether a call was missed or not.
I believe in second quarter which doesn't help much. Do you have access to all games. I know you can capture clips which I wish I could do.

Short version. he gained control near division line, was starting to fall into backcourt, as he was falling bobbled ball and stepped a good three feet into backcourt
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Old Fri Apr 13, 2012, 08:45am
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No I don't. I was speaking metaphorically. It's more of indictment of the philosophy of calls in the NBE
I understand what you are saying, but I would think your question would be more relavent as it applies to fouls.

In this case (I haven't seen the play nor do I know the exact language for the NBA backcourt rule) it seems like what we may have is a brain fart by an official.
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Old Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:56am
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I understand what you are saying, but I would think your question would be more relavent as it applies to fouls.

In this case (I haven't seen the play nor do I know the exact language for the NBA backcourt rule) it seems like what we may have is a brain fart by an official.
Disagree, number one complaint is failure to call travel wouldn't you agree.

I'm seeing more and more brain farts. This call wouldn't be palatable in a 7yr old rec league.
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Old Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:11am
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This call wouldn't be palatable in a 7yr old rec league.
You sir, must be a darn good official!
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Old Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:28am
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You sir, must be a darn good official!
I'll bite, what makes you say that?
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Old Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:42am
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Disagree, number one complaint is failure to call travel wouldn't you agree.

I'm seeing more and more brain farts. This call wouldn't be palatable in a 7yr old rec league.
The NBA has different travelling rules than the NCAA and FED. And we have seen plenty of video posted right here in this forum showing NCAA officials failing to enforce obvious travelling violations. And we've also seen plenty of examples of NCAA officials incorrectly calling BC violations that did not occur.

So again, do you make the same statement about NCAA officials as you would NBA officials?
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Old Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:46am
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I'll bite, what makes you say that?
The previous comment I quoted by you seems extremely critical of the no-call. How often have you seen a rolled throw-in make it into the f/c untouched?
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Old Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:25pm
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So again, do you make the same statement about NCAA officials as you would NBA officials?
We don't at all. That is the part I do not understand either. We have certainly in the past month have shown a lot of questionable decisions by NCAA officials and no one said they did so based on entertainment. I guess it always bothers me when that is said because no one says NFL or MLB are doing things for entertainment when they have similar differences in philosophies based on the fact that they are pros and not amateur game.

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Old Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:48pm
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The NBA has different travelling rules than the NCAA and FED. And we have seen plenty of video posted right here in this forum showing NCAA officials failing to enforce obvious travelling violations. And we've also seen plenty of examples of NCAA officials incorrectly calling BC violations that did not occur.

So again, do you make the same statement about NCAA officials as you would NBA officials?
Sir, you make too much sense here.
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What other league or level of basketball would allow this type of play to happen? My contention would be that it is more likely to see this type of play allowed night in and night out in the NBA and not so much in the NCAA.

Are the rules in the NBA, as such, so that it's that difficult to recognize the pivot foot?

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