Back-court or not and Why?

[bd41flpk]

Team A (A1) has the ball out of bounds (NFHS) and passes to Teammate A2 who is in the air and has jumped from the front-court. Prior to A2 landing, he then passes the ball to A3 who is in the back-court.

I say 'legal' since A2 could have landed in the back-court legally so official front-court status was not attained.

Can someone validate this as well as a rule please?

Much appreciated.

[Scratch85]

Violation. 9.9.1E

"official front-court staus" was attained. It is attained when the throw-in ends. When the throw-in ends the throw-in exceptions end also.

[Refsmitty]

Rule 9-9-3

A player from the team not in control (defense or during jump ball or throw in) may legally jump from front court and land in backcourt.

[Camron Rust]

As dumb as the ruling is, the above posts have the correct ruling.

However, I think the rule should be changed to not establish FC following a throwin until a player is holding/dribbling the ball while actually touching the FC and not touching the BC.

This is even more logical with the case where the ball, having been thrown form A1 to A2 (who has jumped from the FC), is tipped by B3 before A2 catches the ball then lands in the backcourt. By the current rule, this is a violation merely because B3 touched the ball before A2 caught it. Before the rewrite of the backcourt excpetions a few years ago, it was not a violation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by ejn1958

Ok guys, you are overthinking this. It is not a back court violation in high school.

There is no team control on the throw in..OK. When A1 jumped from the frontcourt into the air and caught the ball, since A1 was the first to touch, when the throw-in ends (on the touch by A1) there is no court status established. A1 could land in the back court, could tap the ball into the back court chase it down & could pass the ball into the back court to another player without violating. The only way this would be a violationis if A2 also jumped in the air & A1 tipped or passed the ball to A2 & A2 landed in backcourt or passed to another team mate in backcourt.

Now if another player had tipped the ball prior to A1 touching or catching it, not even A1 could land in the backcourt because the throw-in ended & A1 now has frontcourt status when they jumped in the air.

In your play, no violation, play on.
Thanks
-EJN

Oh, wow. You couldn't be more wrong. The exception does not state that A1 doesn't establish player/team control in the FC, it only states that he's allowed to land normally. You're just flat wrong about that.

Now, go read the case plays in 9.9.

[ejn1958]

Ok, I mis read the play. I am wrong.
I apologize.
Thanks
-EJN

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by ejn1958

Ok guys, you are overthinking this. It is not a back court violation in high school.



In your play, no violation, play on.

Case book play 9.9.1SitE is the exact same play as the original post and that case play says that it is a violation.

You're not just over-thinking this play. You obviously don't know the rule.

EDIT: Snaqs got there first by 2 minutes and 6.2 seconds.

[hilltopperref]

Violation.

Throw in ended when caught/possesed by A1. If A1 landed in the backcourt no problem. When A1 left the floor he had FC status, catches the ball (posseses the ball so throw in ends) passes to player A2 in the backcourt. Last to touch in FC: team A First to touch in BC: Team A = violation.