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erroneously canceling or counting....
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Wasn't my game, but I have a partner tonight who was on this game. Three times in one game, supposedly he missed the a last second shot play. So, that got me to thinking: Just before the half, you have last second shot responsibility. You think the shot clearly left the shooter's hand before the horn. You count it, conduct usual halftime check with table and run into the dressing room. In the dressing room both partners CONVINCE you that you missed the call. Question 1 - how would you go about changing your call? Question 2 - Is this covered by the 5th correctable error and are you within the timeframe Question 3 - How would you try to handle if this was between quarter 1 and 2? Question 4 - End of game situation where it determines a winner Question 5 - How would you pre-game this situation
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1 - Go out after the half and notify both coaches and update the book since this still falls within the CE timeframe. 2 - Yes and yes. 3 - Same way. 4 - Once you leave the confines of the court that's it. 5 - Pregame that if there is disagreement we need to get together and get it right NOW, not in the locker room.
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I wouldn't have left the floor until I have concurrence from my partners. If they want to CONVINCE me I'm wrong, we do it on the floor before the half (or worse yet, GAME) ends.
In OP the word "think" is a red flag. If I "think" it was a good shot, my partner better come to me with the word "know" in his/her advice; I am not looking for a second opinion, but for a "fact". That's what I would discuss during pre-game. |
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I'd like to see this corrected during the dead ball time between quarters. We dont need to be in the lockerroom to say we got something wrong. Get it right before leaving the floor.
Running off the court between halves too?
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No, I moonwalk off like I learned at a camp somewhere.
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Tref,
Wasn't really in a hurry. Did halftime table check and retrieved jackets, then left court. Just trying to convey that in this play, the officials were in the dressing room when the discussion took place.
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Run, walk,or crawl you still can correct at the start of the 2nd half.
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True BNR, I just prefer to fix it before leaving the court. Too much speculation comes about when we change scores after the half has ended. I mean, did the partners need that much time to think about?
Had a packed 2nd round game last Friday night & when the home team fans rushed the court, I jogged off
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How did you like the jog? Were you a long way away from the exit and therefore a jog was more appropriate or were you at the close exit and just did the cowardly thing |
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I don't believe this, by definition, is a correctable error situation. What rule was set aside that resulted in erroneously counting/cancelling a score? This was a judgement call by the official responsible for the shot and in that respect, if the official was sure of his call, I agree with Snaqwells. Now if the official had any doubt then he would confer with his partners before counting or cancelling and before leaving the floor.
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I just prefer to fix mistakes immediately rather than 10 minutes later. No coaches/players/fans/observers/haters can say we conspired to fix the half-time spread on the underground HS wagering scene. Many biased parties already say we cheat, why open the door to more criticism by coming out to start the 2nd half by deducting points?? That being said, I'm never saying never. It could be done to begin the 3rdQ as it is within the CE time limits, but I would prefer to handle it as we retrieve jackets & switch the arrow & confirm that the book & board match. Lot of opportunity to make it right on the court. I was the L on the south end & when I saw only 2 police officiers & the white out that used to be in the stands was closing down on the court, I had to get! Felt the same as any other time I've jogged. * Never said I dont jog ever, just that it isnt a routine departure for me. Gotta feeling I'll be jogging off again tonight...
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For the record if we go into the locker room, it is too late to change something IMO. Peace
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