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Old Wed Feb 01, 2012, 01:56am
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No, his point was that there can't be a foul without contact. The coach is going to hear it that way and in his mind add the unspoken, "if there's any contact it's a foul."
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No, his point was that there can't be a foul without contact. The coach is going to hear it that way and in his mind add the unspoken, "if there's any contact it's a foul."
Maybe, maybe not. How can you know for sure that's what the synapses are brewing?
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Old Wed Feb 01, 2012, 11:27am
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Maybe, maybe not. How can you know for sure that's what the synapses are brewing?
Maybe I'm jaded, but I assume they'll take the meaning that was furthest from my intent. Short phrases are best, but they often leave too much room for misinterpretation.

Official: "No contact, no foul."
Coach: "But there was contact!"

Now you've started a conversation. I would only possibly say this if I know 100% for certain there was no contact; but even then, on the next play when there is some incidental contat, you've set yourself up for another conversation.
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Old Wed Feb 01, 2012, 11:30am
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Maybe, maybe not. How can you know for sure that's what the synapses are brewing?
Experience.

That is, while we can't know "for sure" that's what is going on, we know there's a 92.8% chance it's true.

I use either "no displacement" or "no advantage" or "incidental contact" when I choose to address this.
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Old Wed Feb 01, 2012, 12:00pm
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Experience.

That is, while we can't know "for sure" that's what is going on, we know there's a 92.8% chance it's true.

I use either "no displacement" or "no advantage" or "incidental contact" when I choose to address this.
Do a ton of youth ball on the weekends so I get all these more than most as fans seem to a be a bit more knowledgeable as the teams get older.

1) 3 seconds myths. For the life of me I don't understand why people yell the loudest about things they understand the least. People don't understand things like a try stops the count, or you need team control for a 3 second violation. You see the former a lot in youth ball when you end up with ten kids in the lane as two tall kids take turns exchanging air balls over the rim because nobody knows how to use the damn back board. Inevitably you end up with someone counting 1-2-3-4-5-6-7.... as this happens.

My favorite was earlier this year when I had a fan literally screaming at the top of her lungs for 3 seconds during an inbound play.

2) Sliding with possession of the ball is traveling.

3) The defense has to be 100% set and stationary to take a charge.
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Do a ton of youth ball on the weekends so I get all these more than most as fans seem to a be a bit more knowledgeable as the teams get older.
Really?
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Really?
I said "a bit".
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Old Wed Feb 01, 2012, 01:34pm
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I said "a bit".
It's true, in general. I've noticed the fans of some schools also know more than at other schools.
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