Charge???

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by 7IronRef

Ok
Fast break situation near midcourt line. Defender is 2 or 3 steps ahead, lays down and creates a 6'4" speed bump, offense side steps but their foot makes contact with the speed bumps foot and trips falling to the floor, losing possession and breaks their wrist....LGP according to you....CHARGE? Oh yea and technically they can rise within their vertical plane.

I just don't buy your interpretation

Every coach in the world will stop telling their kids to stand in and draw a charge, they'll say hurry up and lay down to draw a charge

Why do you keep using the phrase LGP? It's been pointed out several times that in NFHS every player is entitled to their spot on the floor. If B1 is laying on the floor and A1 comes to B1 and trips over him it's not a foul b/c B1 was entitled to that spot on the floor. LGP has nothing to do with it.

In NCAA it would be a foul on the defender.

[7IronRef]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Why do you keep using the phrase LGP? It's been pointed out several times that in NFHS every player is entitled to their spot on the floor. If B1 is laying on the floor and A1 comes to B1 and trips over him it's not a foul b/c B1 was entitled to that spot on the floor. LGP has nothing to do with it.

In NCAA it would be a foul on the defender.

Ok take LGP out of it. Again, it is not a normal part of the game, but yet the insistence is that contact as a result of a defensive player being prone is the fault of the offense.

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by 7IronRef

Ok take LGP out of it. Again, it is not a normal part of the game, but yet the insistence is that contact as a result of a defensive player being prone is the fault of the offense.

Players fall to the floor all the time (especially girls). So, it is part of the game. It sounds to me that most are saying, according to NFHS rules, it is more incidental contact than anything else. All things being equal.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by 7IronRef

Ok take LGP out of it. Again, it is not a normal part of the game, but yet the insistence is that contact as a result of a defensive player being prone is the fault of the offense.

That's what the NFHS has ruled. I like the college rule better but I have to adhere to the rules of whichever particular game I am officiating that day.