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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 12:29am
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 12:31am
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Good call!
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 12:40am
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Agree. The dribble before the ball went BC looked like player control to me. Good call.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 12:44am
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Great call. Notice the talking heads never even mention the dribble.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 01:07am
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Is NCAA rule the same as NFHS?

Did he have control inbounds?
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 01:16am
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Is NCAA rule the same as NFHS?

Did he have control inbounds?
Yes, both rule sets are the same in regards to backcourt violations.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 01:40am
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Good Call.
Once he pushed the ball to the floor I have player control.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 01:49am
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What if a teammate had made the recovery in the backcourt?
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 01:53am
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What if a teammate had made the recovery in the backcourt?
Why would that matter?

Same as if he caught it, ever so briefly, and fumbled into the BC.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 01:56am
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Why would that matter?

Same as if he caught it, ever so briefly, and fumbled into the BC.
What did he do which defined control in frontcourt?
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 01:58am
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What did he do which defined control in frontcourt?
Dribbled. In the brief moment before it hit his foot, he had player control by rule.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 02:04am
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Dribbled. In the brief moment before it hit his foot, he had player control by rule.
I agree. But the rest of the world did not in another thread a while back.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 08:57am
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The first two times he touched the ball, it was a fumble. The third was a dribble.
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Great call. Notice the talking heads never even mention the dribble.
In fact, Tirico mentions the dribble at 0:17.

Of course, he thought Izzo's complaint was a tip, when clearly he was arguing that his guy never had PC.

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Old Thu Jan 19, 2012, 10:56am
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Thank you APG!
I saw this and thought they nailed it. It was a goofy play, and I remembered this was a type of play that was discussed during the rule change to team control during a throw in (NFHS).
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