Backcourt Violation Play

[APG]

As requested from berserkBBK

[tjones1]

Good call!

[stiffler3492]

Agree. The dribble before the ball went BC looked like player control to me. Good call.

[Adam]

Great call. Notice the talking heads never even mention the dribble.

[just another ref]

Is NCAA rule the same as NFHS?

Did he have control inbounds?

[APG]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Is NCAA rule the same as NFHS?

Did he have control inbounds?

Yes, both rule sets are the same in regards to backcourt violations.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Great call. Notice the talking heads never even mention the dribble.

In fact, Tirico mentions the dribble at 0:17.

Of course, he thought Izzo's complaint was a tip, when clearly he was arguing that his guy never had PC.

Good call.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Notice the talking heads never even mention the dribble.

I've done a little announcing over the years. Before I started wearing stripes, I sure would have liked to know the full boat of requirements for backcourt. Simply put, someone needs to step up and teach these guys, especially at the national level. The more announcers that get it right, the fewer fans there will be to get it wrong.

[berserkBBK]

Thank you APG!
I saw this and thought they nailed it. It was a goofy play, and I remembered this was a type of play that was discussed during the rule change to team control during a throw in (NFHS).
Ps: Go Blue!

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by berserkBBK

Thank you APG!
I saw this and thought they nailed it. It was a goofy play, and I remembered this was a type of play that was discussed during the rule change to team control during a throw in (NFHS).
Ps: Go Blue!

This doesn't have anything to do with team control on a throw-in. That only applies to the throwing team fouling during a throw-in. Backcourt rules have not changed. This would have been a BC violation last year too.

[berserkBBK]

Originally Posted by zm1283

This doesn't have anything to do with team control on a throw-in. That only applies to the throwing team fouling during a throw-in. Backcourt rules have not changed. This would have been a BC violation last year too.

I understand that. I guess a no call on a non controlled ball would have been better to explain that.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Backcourt rules have not changed.

Not true. Backcourt rules changed quite a bit, causing at least one major discrepancy.

[fiasco]

I watched that game. You could read lips and kind of make out the conversation between Earl Walton and Tom Izzo. Seems like Izzo was arguing that his player didn't have control and Earl is trying to explain to him that the second he dribbled the ball, even if it was off his foot, he established control. I think Earl finally got through to him. Great call in a pressure situation.