Dunk in pregame

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Maybe the horse isn't suficiently dead after all....

Awww, I already copied your horsie pic to My Pictures.

To answer your question, though, I'm going with a toss from the gym. While it sure "feels" like a T, you can't T up someone who's not in the game, and an ejection sends a bigger message anyway, without really penalizing the team that he's not on. Besides, a student that gets tossed from his own gym will have to answer to his own authorities the next day. It also prevents a probable next-day beating from the varsity players.

If I ever have to use 2-8-1, it'll be to prevent things from getting out of hand. Being called a penile helmet once doesn't quite qualify, IMO.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Awww, I already copied your horsie pic to My Pictures.

To answer your question, though, I'm going with a toss from the gym. While it sure "feels" like a T, you can't T up someone who's not in the game, and an ejection sends a bigger message anyway, without really penalizing the team that he's not on. Besides, a student that gets tossed from his own gym will have to answer to his own authorities the next day. It also prevents a probable next-day beating from the varsity players.

If I ever have to use 2-8-1, it'll be to prevent things from getting out of hand. Being called a penile helmet once doesn't quite qualify, IMO.

As long as you deal with it, I'm not overly concerned with how.

In my game, he's getting the T, and if we have to consider him an assistant coach to do it, so be it. Same with the pregame dunk, IMO.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by snaqwells

in my game, he's getting the t, and if we have to consider him an assistant coach to do it, so be it. Same with the pregame dunk, imo.

+1

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bainsey

To answer your question, though, I'm going with a toss from the gym.

Where do you get the authority to toss anyone from the gym?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Where do you get the authority to toss anyone from the gym?

Before we get into silly semantics, I *always* have the authority to have someone removed from the gym if I need to. Does anyone really question that?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Before we get into silly semantics, I *always* have the authority to have someone removed from the gym if I need to. Does anyone really question that?

Thank you.

[just another ref]

The point is first that you really don't. If the situation arises that a person needs to be removed, hopefully game management will back you.

"I want that guy removed."

"I'll take care of it. I'll talk to him."

Then what?

Second, and applicable here, hopefully we don't ask for removal unless a person's actions are waaaaay out of line. A dunk in warmups does not meet this description, particularly if that dunker was out there with the blessing of the coach.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

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Second, and applicable here, hopefully we don't ask for removal unless a person's actions are waaaaay out of line. A dunk in warmups does not meet this description, particularly if that dunker was out there with the blessing of the coach.

If he is out there with the blessing of the coach then the proper penalty would be a T, correct?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If he is out there with the blessing of the coach then the proper penalty would be a T, correct?

It would be for me.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The point is first that you really don't. If the situation arises that a person needs to be removed, hopefully game management will back you.

"I want that guy removed."

"I'll take care of it. I'll talk to him."

Then what?

We don't start until he's gone.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The point is first that you really don't. If the situation arises that a person needs to be removed, hopefully game management will back you.

"I want that guy removed."

"I'll take care of it. I'll talk to him."

Then what?

Second, and applicable here, hopefully we don't ask for removal unless a person's actions are waaaaay out of line. A dunk in warmups does not meet this description, particularly if that dunker was out there with the blessing of the coach.

If I ask for removal and the game management refuses, *we don't play*. Like I said, silly semantics.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Where do you get the authority to toss anyone from the gym?

Really?

I guess we can't personally toss them but we can and do hold the game until game management has done so...which is effectively the same thing.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Really?

I guess we can't personally toss them but we can and do hold the game until game management has done so...which is effectively the same thing.

As it should be. But what about the extreme example? What about an official who wants to eject the player's mother for stepping onto the court to check on an injured player as he lies motionless?

There are exceptions to everything.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by just another ref

There are exceptions to everything.

OK, what's the exception to that?