Uncalled Cheap Shots

[BillyMac]

Has anyone posted this yet? Since these are live ball fouls, I've edited out the technical foul references.

A flagrant foul may be a personal foul of a violent or savage nature, It may or may not be intentional. If personal, it involves, but is not limited to violent contact such as: striking, kicking and kneeing. Fighting is a flagrant act.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Has anyone posted this yet? Since these are live ball fouls, I've edited out the technical foul references.

A flagrant foul may be a personal foul of a violent or savage nature, It may or may not be intentional. If personal, it involves, but is not limited to violent contact such as: striking, kicking and kneeing. Fighting is a flagrant act.

And this is the reason many will not agree on what is flagrant. This rule gives a lot of room for judgment and interpretation.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And this is the reason many will not agree on what is flagrant. This rule gives a lot of room for judgment and interpretation.

It's the old, "not limited to", trick.

With the exception of the "clothesline" foul, I'm not thinking flagrant foul on any of these plays. And, on the "clothesline" foul, I'm only thinking flagrant foul, but just as likely to go intentional foul (excessive contact), depending on my mindset at that specific time in the game. Not that I would want to be there, but maybe I had to be there, to make this call.

[RookieDude]

I posted the following in a PM to a fellow Washington official, on this forum, that had wished me good luck in the game. We are all "friends" here...so here is my PM to him.


Thanks ______...Connell played Burbank last night...both 1A schools. There was a lot of local media covering the game, but they really had nothing to report on or see that was too interesting.

It was 5 min. into the game before either team fouled. Coaches and players were on their best behavior. I heard #34 didn't go to school friday...therefore, he was ineligible to play and was not even there. #42 got his 5th foul in the middle of the 4th quarter and helped the kid up that he had just fouled. I had closed down on the foul...and said "thank-you" when he offered his hand to the opponent.

I did "T" up the assistant coach from Connell (which is the head football coach at the school) about 2 min. into the 4th quarter. I had just called a foul on #42 (his 4th) for pushing a player as he was crossing the key on offense. The coaches had been great all night...no complaining...nothing. But, as I was reporting the PUSHING foul...the assistant coach yelled, "What did he do?"...I ignored him (since I had just reported what he did) and went to inbound the ball on the endline as new trail. As I was running by the bench...the assistant coach yelled again, "What did he do!" WHACK! unsporting behavior, explained it to the head coach (for about 5 seconds) and away we went.

Yeah...probably a little quick on the trigger...but, the devil made me do it.

Pretty easy night...Burbank beat Connell by about 20.

[deecee]

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[canuckrefguy]

Well, the three gentlemen working this game are famous now. Yahoo has picked up the story...

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For the record:

Play #1 – common foul
Play #2 – common
Play #3 – intentional foul
Play #4 – intentional
Play #5 – flagrant – absolutely, especially given the others on 34
Play #6 – common

3,4, and 5 are quite obviously "upgrades", especially (good grief ) 4 and 5

I would add that #34 can be seen with a big dexter-eating grin on his face on the FT lane after hammering that poor guy.

Can't remember - did we establish if these plays were in chronological order?

[JugglingReferee]

• Play #1
  • no information available
• Play #2
  • Q1, 6:55 left.
  • Score is 2-? (H-V).
  • Foul count is 1 apiece.
  • Last foul was by 20 - which must have been 20 on red, which means that 34's foul was the first foul of the game. And 20 red was the player fouled in this play.
  • 5 timeouts each
• Play #3
  • no information available
• Play #4
  • no information available
• Play #5
  • no information available
• Play #6
  • no information available