Uncalled Cheap Shots

[TheOracle]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

The higher you go the more this applies. Calling fouls and violations is the easy part. Once you get to a certain level everyone is pretty much on the same page about what a foul is.

What do you do to keep the sh!t from hitting the fan and how do you respond if the sh!t does hit the fan?

It's also about the leadership you provide to your group as a top official or elected representative...how to teach and motivate others to lift their performance? The higher the level, the higher the quotient of leading and responding to leadership increases.

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Finally at a wireless spot that won't block youtube.

1. Intent
2. Common
3. Flagrant? Could also make case for intentional
4. Intentional
5. Flagrant
6. Common

[dsqrddgd909]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

And what did they suggest a proper ruling to be?

Juggling,

No suggestions were made, we reviewed them as a group. Most of the folks present thought 5 was fragrant and 3 could have been. 2 and 6 were common, 1 and 4 intentional.

The discussion centered around what the crew should have done during the game (get together, possibly talk to the coaches and/or the players) and what the should have done after.

[JugglingReferee]

Update:

WIAA satisfied with school, referee reaction to Connell foul footage

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Update:

WIAA satisfied with school, referee reaction to Connell foul footage

Not sure what this means? Were the the officials contrite as to their handling of the game?

Does the WIAA absolve them or are they saying they handled the game correctly?

[Brad]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Update:

WIAA satisfied with school, referee reaction to Connell foul footage

During the Connell game, the referees were shocked at what they saw, which is why they hesitated on making any major calls early on in the game.

He who hesitates is lost.

Especially in officiating.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Brad

During the Connell game, the referees were shocked at what they saw, which is why they hesitated on making any major calls early on in the game.

He who hesitates is lost.

Especially in officiating.

I agree. That's why experience is so valuable.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Not sure what this means? Were the the officials contrite as to their handling of the game?

Does the WIAA absolve them or are they saying they handled the game correctly?

As I read it, WIAA is saying the officials learned their lesson. Not quite absolution, but they're not pursuing the matter either.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by mbyron

As I read it, WIAA is saying the officials learned their lesson. Not quite absolution, but they're not pursuing the matter either.

Officials everywhere learned a lesson.

I won't bet dollars to doughnuts, since doughnuts are a dollar these days, but I will bet dollars to text messages* that officials outside of the WIAA that viewed and discussed this viral video will not let similar actions take place in games they work.


* only thing I could think of that costs what doughnuts cost when the phrase was coined

[Kingsman1288]

Originally Posted by Brad

During the Connell game, the referees were shocked at what they saw, which is why they hesitated on making any major calls early on in the game.

He who hesitates is lost.

Especially in officiating.

I can MAYBE understand hesitating one time in the beginning, but to hesitate on all of them over the course of the game? That's awful, and the fact that it was used as an excuse is even worse.

[just another ref]

Sometimes they really can't help it. Tonight, BV, had a kid with a similar build and similar athletic ability to #34, but not as big. Early second half, trying to cut off the baseline, big collision caused the offensive player, who was airborne, to land awkwardly. He left the game with an ankle injury. As he was helped off, the fouler looked at me, obviously guilt stricken, "My bad."
With 1.6 seconds left in the game, this same kid undercut another player who was flying in to try for a rebound. The flyer crashed hard to the floor and did not get up. I was told that the injured player was just returning to action after suffering a broken back in a car accident. We ended the game at this point and met an ambulance just down the road from the school. I'm certain that this last play was an accident.

The injured player was a teammate.

[Bad Zebra]

"The Washington Interscholastic Activities Association has reviewed the incident, and is satisfied with how the school districts and local officials group handled the situation."

Doesn't really tell us much. It would be nice to learn about how the local association did handle it, but I wouldn't expect that to be made public. Anyone here close to this area? Were there ANY disciplinary actions on the officials at all?

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by just another ref

... I was told that the injured player was just returning to action after suffering a broken back in a car accident. We ended the game at this point and met an ambulance just down the road from the school...

This is horrible. I can't think of a worse way to end a game.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Were there ANY disciplinary actions on the officials at all?

They have to wear belted pants next season. That will relegate them to a season of freshman high school, and middle school games.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

They have to wear belted pants next season. That will relegate them to a season of GIRLS freshman high school, and GIRLS middle school games.

Think this is better(worse)