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Old Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:40pm
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Old Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:41pm
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But what if one official signals a block and the other signals a player control foul, then what do we do?
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4.19.8 SITUATION C: A1 drives for a try and jumps and releases the ball.
Contact occurs between A1 and B1 after the release and before airborne shooter
A1 returns one foot to the floor. One official calls a blocking foul on B1 and the
other official calls a charging foul on A1. The try is (a) successful, or (b) not successful.
RULING: Even though airborne shooter A1 committed a charging foul, it
is not a player-control foul because the two fouls result in a double personal foul.
The double foul does not cause the ball to become dead on the try. In (a), the goal
is scored; play is resumed at the point of interruption, which is a throw-in for
Team B from anywhere along the end line. In (b), the point of interruption is a try
in flight; therefore the alternating-possession procedure is used. (4-36)
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Old Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:50pm
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4.19.8 SITUATION C: A1 drives for a try and jumps and releases the ball.
Contact occurs between A1 and B1 after the release and before airborne shooter
A1 returns one foot to the floor. One official calls a blocking foul on B1 and the
other official calls a charging foul on A1. The try is (a) successful, or (b) not successful.
RULING: Even though airborne shooter A1 committed a charging foul, it
is not a player-control foul because the two fouls result in a double personal foul.
The double foul does not cause the ball to become dead on the try. In (a), the goal
is scored; play is resumed at the point of interruption, which is a throw-in for
Team B from anywhere along the end line. In (b), the point of interruption is a try
in flight; therefore the alternating-possession procedure is used. (4-36)
Thought the main point in this thread was that a charge and a player control foul are not the same thing.
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Old Fri Dec 30, 2011, 07:13pm
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Thought the main point in this thread was that a charge and a player control foul are not the same thing.
Sometimes they are. Sometimes they're not.
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Old Fri Dec 30, 2011, 09:01pm
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Sometimes they are. Sometimes they're not.
Absolutely true. No one argues (do they) that the two are not necessarily the same.


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What if one official signals a block and the other signals a player control foul, then what do we do?

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4.19.8 SITUATION C: A1 drives for a try and jumps and releases the ball.
Contact occurs between A1 and B1 after the release and before airborne shooter
A1 returns one foot to the floor. One official calls a blocking foul on B1 and the
other official calls a charging foul on A1. The try is (a) successful, or (b) not successful.
RULING: Even though airborne shooter A1 committed a charging foul, it
is not a player-control foul because the two fouls result in a double personal foul.
The double foul does not cause the ball to become dead on the try. In (a), the goal
is scored; play is resumed at the point of interruption, which is a throw-in for
Team B from anywhere along the end line. In (b), the point of interruption is a try
in flight; therefore the alternating-possession procedure is used. (4-36)
The question doesn't contain the word charge.
The case doesn't contain the words player control.

Let alone obligation based on signals which may or may not mean the same thing.
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Old Fri Dec 30, 2011, 09:55pm
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This is like seeing magnesium being dumped in a swimming pool.
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Old Fri Dec 30, 2011, 10:14pm
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This is like seeing magnesium being dumped in a swimming pool.
For some
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Old Sat Dec 31, 2011, 03:41pm
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Wrong Metal ???

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This is like seeing magnesium being dumped in a swimming pool.
Did you mean to say Sodium, or Potassium?
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Old Sat Dec 31, 2011, 06:46am
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The case doesn't contain the words player control.
Because it's a double foul. If the other official didn't call a block, then it would have been a player control foul.
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Old Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:42pm
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Triple whistle for action at the freethrow line and halfway across the key - (not our finest example of 6 eyes on 10 players). Two fists and one open hand in the air - we all had something different. Can you guess what we went with? The winning call came out of the C position.

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